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Flynn · 07-02-2009, 07:30 PM

I've listened to several women explain why they wear traditional Muslim clothing, modesty seems to be the main reason some say it is because they want to dress like the wives of Muhammad.

In countries that are predominantly Muslim, men wear cool white robes and their wives wears restrictive heat seeking BLACK cloth. It's almost like parts of the animal kingdom where the males have pretty plumage and the females are a drab fawn or grey colour.

Western societies may have taken personal freedoms too far in some cases but if sections of our communities don't like our way of life then they should consider immigrating to a country that has the values they want to live with.

In 2004 the french government banned the use of the Burqa and Hijab from being worn in schools and government offices now they want to ban their use outside of the privacy of the family home.

The population of france is sixty million and five million of those are Muslims. President Sarkozy is said to be reinstating traditional French values by introducing a complete social ban on the Burqa and Hijab.

quote AAP

A group of 58 French MPs are asking for a parliamentary panel to look at ways to curb the wearing of the burka or niqab, which they describe as a "prison" and "degrading" for women and contrary to French secular principles.

THE French government was split on Friday over whether a law should be enacted to restrict the wearing of the full Islamic veil by Muslim women in Europe's most staunchly secular country.
A group of lawmakers is calling for a special inquiry into whether women who wear the burka or the niqab undermine French secularism and women's rights.

The government's spokesman welcomed the proposal for a parliamentary commission that could lead to legislation, but Immigration Minister Eric Besson warned a law would stir tensions in France, home to some five million Muslims.

Communist MP Andre Gerin is spearheading the drive for a parliamentary panel that would look at ways to restrict the burka which he describes as a 'prison' and 'degrading' for women.

The deputy is also mayor of the southern city of Venissieux, home to a large north African immigrant population, where he says the sight of covered women is not a rare occurrence.

'If it were determined that wearing the burka is a submissive act, and that it is contrary to republican principles, well naturally parliament would have to drawn the necessary conclusions,' said government spokesman Luc Chatel.

Asked whether that would mean introducing legislation, he said, 'why not.' Home to Europe's largest Muslim minority, France passed a controversial law in 2004 forbidding girls from wearing veils in state schools as part of the government's drive to defend secularism.

Mr Besson, a former Socialist, came out against new legislation on Islamic dress, saying France had already gone far enough in imposing restrictions on wearing veils in government offices and schools.

'We need to counter the wearing of the burka with education and dialogue. A law would be inefficient and create tensions that we don't need at this time,' Mr Besson told Europe 1 radio.

The proposal has won support from many politicians from both the left and right including urban affairs minister Fadela Amara, who was born to Algerian immigrants and is an outspoken advocate for Muslim women's rights.

quote AAP

LONDON: In a bid to hit back at French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s attempts to ban the burqa in the country , hardline Islamic cleric Anjem Choudary
has branded his wife Carla Bruni a prostitute.

While addressing Parliament recently, Sarkozy had said that wearing the burqa was not welcome in France, sparking strong reactions from Muslim communities around the world.

Choudary has said that former model and singer Bruni, 41, represents the face of a depraved Western society where women are treated like sex objects.

Writing on the Islam4UK website, Chaudary claimed that Muslims were not shallow to treat their women like the French president.

“Sarkozy may be content with being wed to a prostitute who flaunts her body to the world believing it to be righteous conduct, but he is reminded that a Muslim is not this shallow and depraved,” the Daily Star quoted him as saying.

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Flynn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Austrlaian Capital Territory, Canberra, Flynn 2615 Posts: 6,619 Blog Entries: 18 Rep Power: 1049	Ban the Burqa I've listened to several women explain why they wear traditional Muslim clothing, modesty seems to be the main reason some say it is because they want to dress like the wives of Muhammad. In countries that are predominantly Muslim, men wear cool white robes and their wives wears restrictive heat seeking BLACK cloth. It's almost like parts of the animal kingdom where the males have pretty plumage and the females are a drab fawn or grey colour. Western societies may have taken personal freedoms too far in some cases but if sections of our communities don't like our way of life then they should consider immigrating to a country that has the values they want to live with. In 2004 the french government banned the use of the Burqa and Hijab from being worn in schools and government offices now they want to ban their use outside of the privacy of the family home. The population of france is sixty million and five million of those are Muslims. President Sarkozy is said to be reinstating traditional French values by introducing a complete social ban on the Burqa and Hijab. quote AAP A group of 58 French MPs are asking for a parliamentary panel to look at ways to curb the wearing of the burka or niqab, which they describe as a "prison" and "degrading" for women and contrary to French secular principles. THE French government was split on Friday over whether a law should be enacted to restrict the wearing of the full Islamic veil by Muslim women in Europe's most staunchly secular country. A group of lawmakers is calling for a special inquiry into whether women who wear the burka or the niqab undermine French secularism and women's rights. The government's spokesman welcomed the proposal for a parliamentary commission that could lead to legislation, but Immigration Minister Eric Besson warned a law would stir tensions in France, home to some five million Muslims. Communist MP Andre Gerin is spearheading the drive for a parliamentary panel that would look at ways to restrict the burka which he describes as a 'prison' and 'degrading' for women. The deputy is also mayor of the southern city of Venissieux, home to a large north African immigrant population, where he says the sight of covered women is not a rare occurrence. 'If it were determined that wearing the burka is a submissive act, and that it is contrary to republican principles, well naturally parliament would have to drawn the necessary conclusions,' said government spokesman Luc Chatel. Asked whether that would mean introducing legislation, he said, 'why not.' Home to Europe's largest Muslim minority, France passed a controversial law in 2004 forbidding girls from wearing veils in state schools as part of the government's drive to defend secularism. Mr Besson, a former Socialist, came out against new legislation on Islamic dress, saying France had already gone far enough in imposing restrictions on wearing veils in government offices and schools. 'We need to counter the wearing of the burka with education and dialogue. A law would be inefficient and create tensions that we don't need at this time,' Mr Besson told Europe 1 radio. The proposal has won support from many politicians from both the left and right including urban affairs minister Fadela Amara, who was born to Algerian immigrants and is an outspoken advocate for Muslim women's rights. quote AAP LONDON: In a bid to hit back at French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s attempts to ban the burqa in the country , hardline Islamic cleric Anjem Choudary has branded his wife Carla Bruni a prostitute. While addressing Parliament recently, Sarkozy had said that wearing the burqa was not welcome in France, sparking strong reactions from Muslim communities around the world. Choudary has said that former model and singer Bruni, 41, represents the face of a depraved Western society where women are treated like sex objects. Writing on the Islam4UK website, Chaudary claimed that Muslims were not shallow to treat their women like the French president. “Sarkozy may be content with being wed to a prostitute who flaunts her body to the world believing it to be righteous conduct, but he is reminded that a Muslim is not this shallow and depraved,” the Daily Star quoted him as saying.