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[squirt]

Originally Posted by pladecalvo

He never existed----but many fell for the con-trick.

Sorry Squirt, just couldn't resist. Don't worry! I won't spoil your posts of fabricated evidence to support JC.....carry on!

I knew you wouldn't be able to lol especially if you couldn't draw me back into the debate lol for somebody who never existed, we sure do talk about Him alot lol

[roadkill]

graet post...he git big sirpreys..wen he waek up dead oen dya..lol...yuo an me jst git nwe nehborhood..go frm oen reealty to a uthre...it no matre hwo muhc yuo profe..stil soem no unersand...thye loke wiht ther eys..no ther haerts

[squirt]

Originally Posted by roadkill

graet post...he git big sirpreys..wen he waek up dead oen dya..lol...yuo an me jst git nwe nehborhood..go frm oen reealty to a uthre...it no matre hwo muhc yuo profe..stil soem no unersand...thye loke wiht ther eys..no ther haerts

lmao ... I have never heard it put any better! that was great, love! it's amazing what we can see when we look with our hearts, the heart can see what the eyes cannot, I love you ... *smooches*

[roadkill]

Originally Posted by squirt

lmao ... I have never heard it put any better! that was great, love! it's amazing what we can see when we look with our hearts, the heart can see what the eyes cannot, I love you ... *smooches*

thta jst teh wya i see thign...liik wen a car braek donw...yuo no stop to esist...yuo jst..go frm oen reealty to a uthre...yuo go frm drivign to waklign..yuo stil esist...i love you to..smooches

[squirt]

the gospel of Matthew paints a grisly scene: Herod the Great, the king of Judea, feeling threatened by the birth of a baby who he feared would eventually seize his throne, dispatches his troops to murder all the children under the age of 2 in Bethlehem, warned by an angel, however, Joseph escapes to Egypt with Mary and Jesus, only after Herod dies do they return to settle in Nazareth, the entire episode having fulfilled 3 ancient prophecies, about the Messiah, the problem: there is no independent confirmation that this mass murder ever took place, there's nothing in the writings of Josephus or other historians, there's no archaeological support, there are no records or documents, certainly an event of this magnitude would have been noticed by someone other than Matthew, with the complete absence of any historical or archaeological corroboration, isn't it logical to conclude that this slaughter never occurred? it's easy to see why we'd say that, since today an event like that would probably be splashed all over CNN and the rest of the news media, but you have to put yourself back in the first century and keep a few things in mind, first, Bethlehem was probably no bigger than Nazareth, so how many babies of that age would there be in a village of 500-600 people? not thousands, not hundreds, although certainly a few, second, Herod the Great was a bloodthirsty king: he killed members of his own family; he executed lots of people who he thought might challenge him, so the fact that he killed some babies in Bethlehem is not going to captivate the attention of people in the Roman world, and third, there was no television, no radio, no newspapers, it would have taken a long time for word of this to get out, especially from such a minor village way in the back hills of nowhere, and historians had much bigger stories to write about, this just wasn't much of a story, at least not in those days, a madman killing everybody who seems to be a potential threat to him - that was business as usual for Herod, later, of course, as Christianity developed, this incident became more important

[squirt]

Originally Posted by roadkill

thta jst teh wya i see thign...liik wen a car braek donw...yuo no stop to esist...yuo jst..go frm oen reealty to a uthre...yuo go frm drivign to waklign..yuo stil esist...i love you to..smooches

I've always loved the way you see things, I think we're gonna love our new neighborhood, I don't wanna wake up dead lol I wanna hold your hand as we walk through heaven on earth ... *smooches*

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admittedly, there is an allure to archaeology, ancient tombs, cryptic inscriptions etched in stone or scratched onto papyrus, bits of broken pottery, worn coins - they're tantalizing clues for an inveterate investigator, but few vestiges of the past have generated as much intrigue as the Dead Sea Scrolls, hundreds of manuscripts dating from 250 AC to AD 68 that were found in caves twenty miles east of Jerusalem in 1947, they apparently had been hidden by a strict sect of Jews called the Essenes before the Romans destroyed their settlement, some bizarre claims have been made about the scrolls, including John Marco Allegro's absurd book in which he theorized that Christianity emerged from a fertility cult in which adherents tripped out on hallucinogenic mushrooms! in a more legitimate but nevertheless much questioned assertion, papyri expert Jose O'Callaghan said one Dead Sea fragment is part of the earliest manuscript ever found of the gospel of Mark, dating back to a mere 17-20 years after Jesus was crucified, however, many scholars continue to be skeptical of his interpretation, in any event, no inquiry into the archaeology of the 1st century would be complete without asking about the scrolls, do they tell us anything directly about Jesus? no, Jesus isn't specifically mentioned in any of the scrolls, primarily these documents give us insights into Jewish life and customs, although there is one very interesting development involving a manuscript called 4Q521 that could tell us something about who Jesus was claiming to be, the gospel of Matthew describes how John the Baptist, imprisoned and wrestling with lingering doubts about Jesus' identity, sent his followers to ask Jesus this monumental question: "Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?" (Matt. 11:3) he was seeking a straight answer about whether Jesus really was the long-awaited Messiah, through the centuries, Christians have wondered about Jesus' rather enigmatic answer, instead of answering yes or no, Jesus replied, "go back and report to John what you hear and see: the blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cured, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor" (Matt. 11:4-5), Jesus' response was an allusion to Isaiah 61, but for some reason Jesus included the phrase "the dead are raised" which is conspiculously absent from the Old Testament text, this is where 4Q521 comes in, this nonbiblical manuscript from the Dead Sea collection, written in Hebrew, dates back to 30 years before Jesus was born, it contains a version of Isaiah 61 that does include this missing phrase, "the dead are raised", [Scroll scholar Craig] Evans has pointed out that this phrase in 4Q521 is unquestionably embedded in a messianiac context, it refers to the wonders that the Messiah will do when he comes and when heaven and earth will obey him, so when Jesus gave his response to John, he was not being ambiguous at all, John would have instantly recognized his words as a distinct claim that Jesus was the Messiah, 4Q521 makes it clear that Jesus' appeal to Isaiah 61 is indeed messianic, in essence, Jesus is telling John through his messengers, that messianic things are happening, so that answers John's question: Yes, he is the one who is to come

[pladecalvo]

Originally Posted by squirt

I knew you wouldn't be able to lol especially if you couldn't draw me back into the debate lol for somebody who never existed, we sure do talk about Him alot lol

Nah! I don't want to draw you back to that thread girl, The fact that you ran away proves that you can't compete.

Seriously, thanks for your contributions to that thread mate, I enjoyed it. I wish you luck in your life and I'm glad you're happy with your beliefs........even though you're wrong. Take care dude!

[squirt]

Originally Posted by pladecalvo

Nah! I don't want to draw you back to that thread girl, The fact that you ran away proves that you can't compete.

Seriously, thanks for your contributions to that thread mate, I enjoyed it. I wish you luck in your life and I'm glad you're happy with your beliefs........even though you're wrong. Take care dude!

nice try lol I didn't run away lol I recognized that it was an exercise in futility and I'm not big on wasting my time lol if I'm wrong, there's nothing for me to lose, if I'm right, there's so much for me to gain, I'd rather err on the side of caution lol I had a good time in there too cuz I wuz whoopin' your butt lol

[pladecalvo]

Originally Posted by squirt

nice try lol I didn't run away lol I recognized that it was an exercise in futility and I'm not big on wasting my time lol if I'm wrong, there's nothing for me to lose, if I'm right, there's so much for me to gain, I'd rather err on the side of caution lol I had a good time in there too cuz I wuz whoopin' your butt lol

In your dreams girl!!!!!