Transgender "man" pregnant

[indianajoe]

Originally Posted by Flynn

You can make all the excuses you want but the fact remains that a woman who desperately wanted to be made into a man becomes pregnant from what is obviously donor sperm.

This man/woman had to make a conscious decison not only to become pregnant but he/she had to get donor sperm to achieve what he/she has done.

I hope the further we get into this story we find out who the sperm donor is so the two lesbians slap him with a paternity suite and make him pay for the child they will raise.

That could well happen...
whats that old tv commercial..."It's not nice to fool mother nature"....
There are a number of bad effects that could and probably will result from this .. and the real sad thing is the one who will bear the most pain and suffering will be the child.

[Flynn]

There is no way anyone could convince me that those two lesbians would ever have the best interests of the child at heart. They are really selfish people and yes Joe you are right, it is going to be the child that suffers.

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by Flynn

It's a freak show they belong in a circus.

I'm with Flynn on this one. The guy isn't a guy to me since "it" still has female sexual organs I consider the "guy" female. Of course the newspapers and magazines will print the story because the idiot public laps ,those kind of stories up like milk. That goes to show you how dumb the public is getting. But that whole family should be in a circus side show one day. In my opinion the kid will have 2 mothers and no father which I'm not against but I'd never call the preggo person a man.

[Vinnie]

It was my point in starting this to emphasise the damage that the media coverage will do to this child and that was what I was railling against. We are contributing to the "child abuse" by media. If we continue on accepting media stories like this then I fear we will get what we truely deserve.

[Flynn]

Any debate is going to take in all aspects that lead to the event.

In this case a woman, thought she wanted to be a man but decided to leave her female reproductive organs in place so she could be the first man to have a baby.

Of course the media is going to crucify this child the first opportunity they get and when it happens feel free to blame the two mothers who are it's parents because it's them who started this media circus.


What we truely deserve ?

You may deserve freaks like that living on your street I'm glad they are in America thousands of kilometres away from me.

As for the child you should address your bitterness toward its two mothers for exploiting their child even before it is born.

[Mimi]

Originally Posted by Flynn

You may deserve freaks like that living on your street I'm glad they are in America thousands of kilometres away from me.

Believe me, we have plenty of freaks here too! My newsletter tells me so..

I can see Vinnie's point. We keep buying and supporting this sort of news. Bringing anything that will sell a story into the public eye and making it acceptable. It's all sensationalism, but these 'freaks' serve as trailblazers; once there's one, more will follow.

The media has a lot to answer for.

[Flynn]

Mimi

I don't think you and Vinnie realise the hypocrisy of creating a thread which advertises the very ills of society you say the media gives too much coverage to.


You're right about one thing, those freaks serve as trailblazers and they should be used as examples of what not to do. They should not be encouraged by the section of the media that you and Vinnie are part of.

For me I don't mind giving the freak lesbians and their future child media attention, I'll use them as examples of how the degenerates of our time want a controlling interest in all things social so they can legitimize their own depraved life styles.

[Mimi]

It's not hypocrisy, it's an example of what's in the media, put forward to debate 'the media' and these type of 'media stories'.

The problem with what you're suggesting "they should be used as examples of what not to do" is that in using them as an example, the media is glorifying anything that's different, good or bad, and your example can often be admired just because it's getting media attention.

The less attention something gets the less interesting it becomes. By giving your attention, positive or negative, so fully to a subject it only makes others take notice.

[Vinnie]

Believe me I was well aware of the latant (or should that be Blatant) Hypocracy in thuis thread. Just as I was aware of the fact that others with their own agenda would try to divert the topic from what I originally wished to discuss.
I'm not suree of how to divert media attention from these "freak" stories to the more important points of life. No doubt the serious papers will have carried reports similar to the tabloids. We use the media as a panacea for the ills of society: Look at how screwed up everyone else is...we're not so bad! In doing so we accept the media abuse of someone who deos not deserve it. Yes the child may have been given a raw statr by it's parents but that does not excuse our glorying in it's discomfort.
If you assault someone and I rob them, the fact your crime is the greater does not lessen my crime.

[Flynn]

Mimi

The only way I can answer your post is by saying that I thought about making a thread with this as the topic and decided not to for the very reasons you point out. I did not want to give these deviants any more media attention than they deserve.

You and Vinnie have provided that media vehicle for them.

Unfortunately I felt compelled to answer once members like Vinnie and yourself gave your approval for the coming birth of a child whose conception can only be described as contrived.

As for Vinnies comment about other members agendas, did he really expect we we're all going to jump on board the Good Ship SS Vinnie and only post things that would make him feel good about himself ?

Vinnie it is a debate board, your thread is a multi issue topic whether you like it or not.