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Old 07-19-2008, 11:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Hmmm... the point of this topic was to get a healthy debate on a current issue, however trivial some might seem to view it as.

So rather than degenerating into a random argument, how about we stick to the issues? Yeah?

Other than that, good points on all sides so far. But I still think that Patrish and I are still seeing eye to eye on this.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:47 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I'm with Auntumn Rain on this. The girl is definitely screwed up and needs help. Her so called friends and family if they get hold of her finances will bleed her dry. And you can't rely on Parents either, they'll do the same thing. Look at the number of cases where one parent was the manager and it was later found that they were spending the childs money on themselves. I believe McCauley Caulkin (Home Alone star) was one of them). Not many child actors stay in the profession bexause as their voice changes and they get older the studios don't want them anymore. A few opt out on their own. One of them was the little kid from the shinong. He only made one other movie (for tv I believe) and is now a science teacher. It's like when you're involuntarily committed to an hospital for observation. I am guessing that you don't believe that should ever happen as well? Sometimes things like these are in the perons best interests until they get the help they need. Sorry to ramble but I am for them limiting her to 15,000 a week.
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Old 07-20-2008, 11:57 AM   #53 (permalink)
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And I definitely agree that the paparazzi are a big part of the problem.

I hafta disagree somewhat with this. Though the paparazzi are vultures and at times go too far to get "the picture" they can't be held to blame totally. Quite a few of these stars are so publicity crazy that they'll do anything to thrust themselves constantly into the limelight (like even calling the paparazzi telling them where they'll be). They are hungry to seem their names in print. The Paris Hiltons, Lindsay Lohans and yes Brittany Spears. I believe the parents are to blame for that. They push their kid to make money and make money so they don't hafta do anything but live off them. And the kid is pushed further and further toward a breakdown because they are always working while their parents sit back and collect the check for being "manager" or whatever they can call themselves to get a salary from their own kid. They need to seriously regulate all these Kiddie pageants that do nothing but exploit the children and make the parents even more greedy. Lady Di brought it on herself I have no sympathy for her. She used the press and papparazzi to promote her own causes then complained they were around too much. You can't have it both ways!
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:09 AM   #54 (permalink)
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It's like when you're involuntarily committed to an hospital for observation. I am guessing that you don't believe that should ever happen as well?
Ya know what? My beliefs on that are a bit twisted and it's off topic, so I'll just say that those situations are on a case by case basis. But, I'll say this too - that's not a topic you want to argue with me about.

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I hafta disagree somewhat with this. Though the paparazzi are vultures and at times go too far to get "the picture" they can't be held to blame totally. Quite a few of these stars are so publicity crazy that they'll do anything to thrust themselves constantly into the limelight...

I believe the parents are to blame for that. They push their kid to make money and make money so they don't hafta do anything but live off them...

Lady Di brought it on herself I have no sympathy for her. She used the press and papparazzi to promote her own causes then complained they were around too much...
Hmmm... yes, they can be held totally to blame. And, here's why:

You say the girl is sick in the head and needs help.

You say that she is, in fact, so sick in the head that she needs the courts to step in and control her finances.

That she needs to be restricted to $1,500 a week.

And then you turn around and say that she can't blame the paparazzi because she 'may' have told them where she was to try and get a little attention.

So which is it? She has the presence of mind to be responsible for telling the paparazzi where she is and therefore is sane enough to call it 'her fault'?

Or she's crazy enough to need the courts to go in her pockets, take her kids, and manage her life for her?

You can't have it both ways...

Secondly... yeah, I believe too that it's partly the parents fault. But in the society that we live in - at least here in America - kids are generally going to do stupid stuff, drugs, and try to get money however they know to. That's damn near the way of life; money talks. So, you can't put this off on one or the other. It's the fault of both. I doubt every child star has a parent twisting their arm to make all that money.

Lastly. What happened to Princess Diana was tragic and I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that it was her fault and not that of the paparazzi. I suppose telling them where she was once or twice means that she must have done so every single time. And, regardless, I suppose them being there in droves to get her picture means they also had the right to disobey the traffic laws, chase her down, and get her killed. Am I right in my supposition?
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A bad driver is what killed Diana, it was his choice to drive the way he did regardless of what was going on around him.

Britney is one of the most powerful people on the planet; money tells us that. She's also showing signs of not coping. She has two choices; cope, or try to convince the media she's coping. I don't think she quite knows how, yet, as hard as that might be for her to admit. We can only use the tools we're given.. has anyone shown her how to deal with her lifestyle, or are they too busy judging her?
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has anyone shown her how to deal with her lifestyle, or are they too busy judging her?
I'm prone to believe that everyone, being different as we are, can't all regulate ourselves in the same way. Does that mean her actions are okay? No. What it means is that someone can't tell or show you how to live your life. You have to find a healthy medium ground that works for you. What she needs to do is get away from the courts, the cameras, the televisions, the computers, and the reporters, and spend some time with just her and her children away from it all. Maybe then she can clear her head enough to see exactly what it is that she really wants and how to go about getting it. Rather than trying to stretch out her 15 minutes.
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Hi just another Face!

I am new here, would you give me a very quick and brief low down on your pov regarding your opening stance on this topic and then I can perhaps put in my 2 cents, thanks!
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Hi just another Face!

I am new here, would you give me a very quick and brief low down on your pov regarding your opening stance on this topic and then I can perhaps put in my 2 cents, thanks!
Well, you're not as new as me, so...

Regardless, to sum up my point of view?

The girl is jacked up in the head, has un-godly amounts of money, her life is falling apart, and all of this considered, I still don't think that the courts should have the power to lock a person away from their own money. She earned it and if she wants to set it all afire in the back yard and watch it burn then thats her business. Basically.
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I agree, however who will be taking care of the children and with whos money?

Would this be putting the children at jeapordy? Has her behavior in anyway, shape of form subjected them to conditions not safe and are common behaviors for us!
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Well they're living with K-Fed, and Britney via lawyers is footing the bill. Were they subjected to what wrongs? The same kind they'll get with him maybe. And the same kind that half of America's children have to grow up with (and much worse) without the courts stepping in and taking over. Hell, don't get me started on my childhood. And I turned out fine... if not a little crazy in the head myself. lol.
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