Obama On 9/11... Fact

PENNMTNS · 09-21-2008, 11:11 AM

Obama And 9/11

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT
The Anniversary: Eight days after terrorism declared war on America, a young state senator blamed it on "a failure of empathy" — yet another reason why Barack Obama should never be commander in chief.

Read More: Election 2008 | Global War On Terror

The July 20 issue of the New Yorker magazine got a lot of attention for its cover, which carried a "satirical" cartoon depicting Michelle and Barack Obama that Obama supporters found tasteless and offensive. Buried inside that issue's feature story, however, was a reaction by Obama to 9/11 that all voters should find even more tasteless and offensive.
The article reprised a piece published in Chicago's Hyde Park Herald on Sept. 19, 2001, and written by a then-unknown and otherwise undistinguished state senator from Illinois. The senator, a former community organizer, wrote that after tightening security at our airports and repairing our intelligence networks, we "must also engage . . . in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness."
According to Barack Obama, the madness that drove terrorists to turn passenger jets into manned cruise missiles aimed at our centers of finance, government and military power "grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."
As if the answer to the attacks should have been food stamps for al-Qaida.
Sen. Obama advised caution and warned of overreacting. "We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad," he wrote. "We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent."
We should also be just as concerned, he felt, with American anger and bigotry as we were about al-Qaida.
In an opinion piece in Commentary magazine, writer Abe Greenwald commented on Obama's belief that the 9/11 attacks were rooted in poverty and despair. "Strange," he called it, "considering our attackers were wealthy and educated, connected and ecstatic."
As Greenwald put it, Obama "could have asked (terrorist and colleague) Bill Ayers, 'Bill, did your 'failure of empathy' stem from your impoverished upbringing as the son of the CEO of Commonwealth Edison?" Did poverty and despair also cause the Weather Underground member and host of Obama's first fundraiser to bomb government buildings?
Fact is, the roster of terrorists and their handlers reads like a list of of Ivy Leaguers:
Osama bin Laden, the son of a Saudi billionaire, studied engineering. Khalid Sheik Mohammed, architect of 9/11 and other major attacks, has a degree in mechanical engineering. Mohammed Atta, who flew a jet into the World Trade Center, is the son of a lawyer and earned a master's degree in urban planning at Hamburg University. Ayman al-Zawahri is an eye surgeon. Seven doctors were involved in the London-Glasgow bomb plots.
You get the idea, even if Barack Obama doesn't.
In a speech before a joint session of Congress on Sept. 20, 2001, President Bush pointed out the real reasons Islamofascists hate us: "They hate what they see right here in this chamber — a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other."
Bush aptly called the 9/11 terrorists and their ilk "the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century."
"By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism," he said.
Knowing the nature of your enemy is the key to victory. On the seventh anniversary of 9/11, we should all thank President Bush for keeping America safe. Along the way, he brought freedom and democracy to the Middle East, draining the terrorist swamp.
Bush gets it. So does John McCain. This is one thing we shouldn't want to change.

Iceman · 09-21-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PENNMTNS

Obama And 9/11

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT
The Anniversary: Eight days after terrorism declared war on America, a young state senator blamed it on "a failure of empathy" — yet another reason why Barack Obama should never be commander in chief.

Read More: Election 2008 | Global War On Terror

The July 20 issue of the New Yorker magazine got a lot of attention for its cover, which carried a "satirical" cartoon depicting Michelle and Barack Obama that Obama supporters found tasteless and offensive. Buried inside that issue's feature story, however, was a reaction by Obama to 9/11 that all voters should find even more tasteless and offensive.
The article reprised a piece published in Chicago's Hyde Park Herald on Sept. 19, 2001, and written by a then-unknown and otherwise undistinguished state senator from Illinois. The senator, a former community organizer, wrote that after tightening security at our airports and repairing our intelligence networks, we "must also engage . . . in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness."
According to Barack Obama, the madness that drove terrorists to turn passenger jets into manned cruise missiles aimed at our centers of finance, government and military power "grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."
As if the answer to the attacks should have been food stamps for al-Qaida.
Sen. Obama advised caution and warned of overreacting. "We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad," he wrote. "We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent."
We should also be just as concerned, he felt, with American anger and bigotry as we were about al-Qaida.
In an opinion piece in Commentary magazine, writer Abe Greenwald commented on Obama's belief that the 9/11 attacks were rooted in poverty and despair. "Strange," he called it, "considering our attackers were wealthy and educated, connected and ecstatic."
As Greenwald put it, Obama "could have asked (terrorist and colleague) Bill Ayers, 'Bill, did your 'failure of empathy' stem from your impoverished upbringing as the son of the CEO of Commonwealth Edison?" Did poverty and despair also cause the Weather Underground member and host of Obama's first fundraiser to bomb government buildings?
Fact is, the roster of terrorists and their handlers reads like a list of of Ivy Leaguers:
Osama bin Laden, the son of a Saudi billionaire, studied engineering. Khalid Sheik Mohammed, architect of 9/11 and other major attacks, has a degree in mechanical engineering. Mohammed Atta, who flew a jet into the World Trade Center, is the son of a lawyer and earned a master's degree in urban planning at Hamburg University. Ayman al-Zawahri is an eye surgeon. Seven doctors were involved in the London-Glasgow bomb plots.
You get the idea, even if Barack Obama doesn't.
In a speech before a joint session of Congress on Sept. 20, 2001, President Bush pointed out the real reasons Islamofascists hate us: "They hate what they see right here in this chamber — a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other."
Bush aptly called the 9/11 terrorists and their ilk "the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century."
"By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism," he said.
Knowing the nature of your enemy is the key to victory. On the seventh anniversary of 9/11, we should all thank President Bush for keeping America safe. Along the way, he brought freedom and democracy to the Middle East, draining the terrorist swamp.
Bush gets it. So does John McCain. This is one thing we shouldn't want to change.

I agree with every bit of that...

Don'tLikeStinkingThinking · 09-21-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

I agree with every bit of that...

Me three lol, especially the part Obama stated! He is very insightful for his age. Seems his world experience as a boy influences his understanding of the misgiving of US Foreign Policies. It is always good 'insight' to have a better understand of those things which you attempt to change, not fight, for you all have seen on this very board you can't fight ideology, but you can help to change it in an attempt to temper the negative manifestations of anger mentality.

Sure we can engage in a war of terrorism but I am confused; I thought Afghanistan was the forward area, whereas it appears it was and still is as is now Pakistan and their highly coveted nuclear weapons.

Now if we want war, hell there are so many reason to fight wars, oh...OIL there you go, hmmmm Wonder why they didn't start a war about oil. Guess they were to busy fighting terrorism in Iraq...........*President for sell, buy one gets two cheap!* *Sigh!*

Don'tLikeStinkingThinking · 09-21-2008, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PENNMTNS

Obama And 9/11

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:20 PM PT
The Anniversary: Eight days after terrorism declared war on America, a young state senator blamed it on "a failure of empathy" — yet another reason why Barack Obama should never be commander in chief.

Read More: Election 2008 | Global War On Terror

The July 20 issue of the New Yorker magazine got a lot of attention for its cover, which carried a "satirical" cartoon depicting Michelle and Barack Obama that Obama supporters found tasteless and offensive. Buried inside that issue's feature story, however, was a reaction by Obama to 9/11 that all voters should find even more tasteless and offensive.
The article reprised a piece published in Chicago's Hyde Park Herald on Sept. 19, 2001, and written by a then-unknown and otherwise undistinguished state senator from Illinois. The senator, a former community organizer, wrote that after tightening security at our airports and repairing our intelligence networks, we "must also engage . . . in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness."
According to Barack Obama, the madness that drove terrorists to turn passenger jets into manned cruise missiles aimed at our centers of finance, government and military power "grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair."
As if the answer to the attacks should have been food stamps for al-Qaida.
Sen. Obama advised caution and warned of overreacting. "We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad," he wrote. "We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent."
We should also be just as concerned, he felt, with American anger and bigotry as we were about al-Qaida.
In an opinion piece in Commentary magazine, writer Abe Greenwald commented on Obama's belief that the 9/11 attacks were rooted in poverty and despair. "Strange," he called it, "considering our attackers were wealthy and educated, connected and ecstatic."
As Greenwald put it, Obama "could have asked (terrorist and colleague) Bill Ayers, 'Bill, did your 'failure of empathy' stem from your impoverished upbringing as the son of the CEO of Commonwealth Edison?" Did poverty and despair also cause the Weather Underground member and host of Obama's first fundraiser to bomb government buildings?
Fact is, the roster of terrorists and their handlers reads like a list of of Ivy Leaguers:
Osama bin Laden, the son of a Saudi billionaire, studied engineering. Khalid Sheik Mohammed, architect of 9/11 and other major attacks, has a degree in mechanical engineering. Mohammed Atta, who flew a jet into the World Trade Center, is the son of a lawyer and earned a master's degree in urban planning at Hamburg University. Ayman al-Zawahri is an eye surgeon. Seven doctors were involved in the London-Glasgow bomb plots.
You get the idea, even if Barack Obama doesn't.
In a speech before a joint session of Congress on Sept. 20, 2001, President Bush pointed out the real reasons Islamofascists hate us: "They hate what they see right here in this chamber — a democratically elected government. Their leaders are self-appointed. They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other."
Bush aptly called the 9/11 terrorists and their ilk "the heirs of all the murderous ideologies of the 20th century."
"By sacrificing human life to serve their radical visions, by abandoning every value except the will to power, they follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and totalitarianism," he said.
Knowing the nature of your enemy is the key to victory. On the seventh anniversary of 9/11, we should all thank President Bush for keeping America safe. Along the way, he brought freedom and democracy to the Middle East, draining the terrorist swamp.
Bush gets it. So does John McCain. This is one thing we shouldn't want to change.

I loved that so much I just had to quote and read it again, Kudos!

Kamenwati · 09-22-2008, 10:28 AM

What Change Looks Like

Finally, the answer to the question “Why do they hate us?” Which, by the
way, has transformed from “Why do the terrorists hate us” to “Why does
the world hate us?” A: The arrogance to believe that it’s your God-given
right to invade and bomb a country to steal their resources, just because
you have the power to do so.

Kamenwati · 09-22-2008, 10:30 AM

Richard Nixon makes a secret agreement with Shah
of Iran to begin covert action against Saddam's
government. The U.S. and Iran then begin funding
the Kurds in their battle against the Iraqi regime for
an autonomous Kurdistan. (See interview with
James Akins.)

1973-1975 Working with Iran and Israel, the U.S. funds
the Kurdish peshmerga (guerrilla army - rough translation:
"those who do not fear death") and encourages them to
fight Saddam's government. CIA and Israeli agents operate
in Kurdistan. (See interviews with Akins, Othman, Talabani,
and Abdul-Rahman)

Kurdish officials visit Washington to meet secretly with
CIA officials (Read interview Richard Nixon makes a
secret agreement with Shah of Iran to begin covert
action against Saddam's government. The U.S. and
Iran then begin funding the Kurds in their battle
against the Iraqi regime for an autonomous Kurdistan.
(See interview with James Akins.)

1973-1975

Working with Iran and Israel, the U.S. funds the Kurdish
peshmerga (guerrilla army - rough translation: "those who
do not fear death") and encourages them to fight Saddam's
government. CIA and Israeli agents operate in Kurdistan.
(See interviews with Akins, Othman, Talabani, and Abdul-
Rahman) Kurdish officials visit Washington to meet secretly
with CIA officials (Read interview with Othman, who made
the visit. Also, Talabani discussing general relations with
the U.S. at the time)

1975
Saddam Hussein makes surprise peace deal with the Shah
of Iran at a meeting in Algiers. Within days, all U.S. support
for the Kurds is stopped and Saddam begins to counterattack
their forces. (See interviews with Akins, Abdul-Rahman,
Talabani. )

March 1975

Jalal Talabani, leader of the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP),
breaks away from the KDP following the collapse of U.S.
support for the Kurds. Talabani forms the Patriotic Union
of Kurdistan (PUK), and ever since, Iraq's Kurdish
opposition has been riven with factionalism.

1975-1990

In 1975 Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, cut off the Kurds
and brought about their instant collapse; for the Kurds, it was
an ugly betrayal. U.S. forbids American officials from having
any open contact with Iraqi Kurdish groups. (See interview
with Othman on being shunned by State Department.) At the
same time, Iraq's government persecutes the Kurds. In 1988
Saddam Hussein uses chemical weapons against the Kurdish
village of Halabja; thousands of men, women and children are
killed.

Who was President in 1988?

George Herbert Walker Bush....Hmm

In 1989, the State Department released a report that described
in gruesome detail Iraq's violation of human rights, specifically
how Iraq's President Saddam Hussein tortured his own people
for allegedly being disloyal.

But despite the atrocities outlined in the report, which President
Bush has refers to when speaking about his desire to remove
Hussein from power, the United States, under the first Bush
Administration, refused to vote in favor of a United Nations
resolution calling for an inquiry into Iraq's treatment of its
population and possibly indicting Hussein for war crimes and
human rights abuses.

Rumsfeld and Bush

Interview With James Akins

U.S. - Kurdish History

Don'tLikeStinkingThinking · 09-22-2008, 11:59 AM

Me thinks this propaganda thread has turned tides...they usually do when one doesn't see past their noses.

Nice posting Kamewati. I realize you have been a member longer than I have, but welcome back instead of aboard...I bet you have some peeing their pants now that you have piped up.

Cheers,

James

09-22-2008, 10:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kamenwati Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Nexus Posts: 198	What Change Looks Like Finally, the answer to the question “Why do they hate us?” Which, by the way, has transformed from “Why do the terrorists hate us” to “Why does the world hate us?” A: The arrogance to believe that it’s your God-given right to invade and bomb a country to steal their resources, just because you have the power to do so. __________________

09-22-2008, 10:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kamenwati Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The Nexus Posts: 198	Richard Nixon makes a secret agreement with Shah of Iran to begin covert action against Saddam's government. The U.S. and Iran then begin funding the Kurds in their battle against the Iraqi regime for an autonomous Kurdistan. (See interview with James Akins.) 1973-1975 Working with Iran and Israel, the U.S. funds the Kurdish peshmerga (guerrilla army - rough translation: "those who do not fear death") and encourages them to fight Saddam's government. CIA and Israeli agents operate in Kurdistan. (See interviews with Akins, Othman, Talabani, and Abdul-Rahman) Kurdish officials visit Washington to meet secretly with CIA officials (Read interview Richard Nixon makes a secret agreement with Shah of Iran to begin covert action against Saddam's government. The U.S. and Iran then begin funding the Kurds in their battle against the Iraqi regime for an autonomous Kurdistan. (See interview with James Akins.) 1973-1975 Working with Iran and Israel, the U.S. funds the Kurdish peshmerga (guerrilla army - rough translation: "those who do not fear death") and encourages them to fight Saddam's government. CIA and Israeli agents operate in Kurdistan. (See interviews with Akins, Othman, Talabani, and Abdul- Rahman) Kurdish officials visit Washington to meet secretly with CIA officials (Read interview with Othman, who made the visit. Also, Talabani discussing general relations with the U.S. at the time) 1975 Saddam Hussein makes surprise peace deal with the Shah of Iran at a meeting in Algiers. Within days, all U.S. support for the Kurds is stopped and Saddam begins to counterattack their forces. (See interviews with Akins, Abdul-Rahman, Talabani. ) March 1975 Jalal Talabani, leader of the Kurdish Democratic Party (KDP), breaks away from the KDP following the collapse of U.S. support for the Kurds. Talabani forms the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), and ever since, Iraq's Kurdish opposition has been riven with factionalism. 1975-1990 In 1975 Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, cut off the Kurds and brought about their instant collapse; for the Kurds, it was an ugly betrayal. U.S. forbids American officials from having any open contact with Iraqi Kurdish groups. (See interview with Othman on being shunned by State Department.) At the same time, Iraq's government persecutes the Kurds. In 1988 Saddam Hussein uses chemical weapons against the Kurdish village of Halabja; thousands of men, women and children are killed. Who was President in 1988? George Herbert Walker Bush....Hmm In 1989, the State Department released a report that described in gruesome detail Iraq's violation of human rights, specifically how Iraq's President Saddam Hussein tortured his own people for allegedly being disloyal. But despite the atrocities outlined in the report, which President Bush has refers to when speaking about his desire to remove Hussein from power, the United States, under the first Bush Administration, refused to vote in favor of a United Nations resolution calling for an inquiry into Iraq's treatment of its population and possibly indicting Hussein for war crimes and human rights abuses. Rumsfeld and Bush Interview With James Akins U.S. - Kurdish History __________________

09-22-2008, 11:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Don'tLikeStinkingThinking Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,004	Me thinks this propaganda thread has turned tides...they usually do when one doesn't see past their noses. Nice posting Kamewati. I realize you have been a member longer than I have, but welcome back instead of aboard...I bet you have some peeing their pants now that you have piped up. Cheers, James __________________ Merci Sadie

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