Gullible Christians

[Flynn]

Squirt

Actually God gave us the ability through science to know the gender and hair colour of the unborn.

Chinese whispers.......2000 years on and the story of Jesus has been so exagerated that nobody knows the truth.

[Vinnie]

I don't really care whether these "appearances" are divine or not. If they cause people to act in a more "christian" way towards their fellow man then they are devine enough for me. If their only effect is to boost a few extra dollars into someone's pocket then it doesnot seem like devine intervention from my perspective.

[squirt]

Originally Posted by Flynn

Squirt

Actually God gave us the ability through science to know the gender and hair colour of the unborn.

Chinese whispers.......2000 years on and the story of Jesus has been so exagerated that nobody knows the truth.

what about if it's right handed or left handed? blue eyed or brown? tall or short? and even science has been wrong ... they said my last child was gonna be a little girl, I had a son and he was not little lol the point is, while we may not know all the details about God or can answer all the questions, one truth remains, there IS a God! I can't make you believe in Jesus as the Son of God, nor can you convince me He isn't, so why don't we just move on, k?

[kipper]

Mary works down our fish shop and she don't look nothing like that...

[Flynn]

Vinnie

That's where I differ with you.

I care whether the image is real.

If it brings joy to the 100+ people who have witnessed it then it can't all be bad news. The point still remains that some religious zealots would have others believe that it is a message from God.

So you have to ask yourself, if god was going to validate the story of Christianity would he choose to leave a message on a splash back griddle tray of a fast food restaurant ?

Then you would have to ask if his witnesses ( wrestlers in costume ) have enough credibility to be believed ?

We're talking about a God that is all seeing and all knowing, the same God that Catholics say has inflicted Mexico with swine flu because the Mexican government legalised abortion.

So you were saying , it's all good so long as they act in a more christian way to their fellow man !

[Flynn]

Originally Posted by kipper

Mary works down our fish shop and she don't look nothing like that...

Do you have Greeks or Italians running your local fish shop ?

Point is the're all Catholics.

[Flynn]

Squirt

I don't have a problem with acknowledging a God.

Christians can not agee on one true story that's why you have trouble convincing Non Biblical type Christians into believing as you do.

Your faith and beliefs are as valid as the Christians who pray with Rattle Snakes or those that believe their spiritual leader can lay hands on them to heal as Jesus did.

Like you said, everyone might be a little bit right, including me.

[squirt]

yep, including you! don't faint! lol

[Vinnie]

Originally Posted by Flynn

Vinnie

That's where I differ with you.

I care whether the image is real.

If it brings joy to the 100+ people who have witnessed it then it can't all be bad news. The point still remains that some religious zealots would have others believe that it is a message from God.

So you have to ask yourself, if god was going to validate the story of Christianity would he choose to leave a message on a splash back griddle tray of a fast food restaurant ?

Then you would have to ask if his witnesses ( wrestlers in costume ) have enough credibility to be believed ?

We're talking about a God that is all seeing and all knowing, the same God that Catholics say has inflicted Mexico with swine flu because the Mexican government legalised abortion.

So you were saying , it's all good so long as they act in a more christian way to their fellow man !

The image is real. Now what the image is of is altogether a different question.
Much depends on what you consider to be "a message from God". Personally I believe that messages from God come at all times and in very many ways. Most of them have simple explanations but that does not make them any less messages from God.
The credibility of the senders is not relatvant to my way of thinking only the efffect of the message. Any event can be a message and how we interpret that will depend upon our viewpoint. If this "miracluous" happening causes good then frankly I don't really care whether it's been painted on by the angels or merely people putting their own interpretation on the thermal stresses of metal. Any event has the potential of multiple interpretations and I believe it is incumbent upon us to try to use these for good rather than evil. Of course then you get into the whole my good is not the same as your good debate...
Swine flu and devine plague? That sounds remarkably like claiming somethuing for political gain. I don't have a problem with adopting anything if it works for the general good. Swine flu is a sign that we should takle more care of those around us who may be at risk and especially look in on our more elderly neighbours to make sure they are alright. Can I claim that as a sign?

[hortysir]

Good grief.....where to begin????
If thinking that this image is of Mary brings joy to people and draws them closer, then it IS a sign from God. Because that's what signs from God do.
Who is to say that God wouldn't use a flat-top grill? 1) His ways are not our ways, and we can't presume to comprehend. 2) He chose the son of a poor carpenter from a tiny village to lead the world to Him.
There IS confusion between Christian denominations. Not because of God, but in Spite of Him (satan, anti-Christs, false prophets...you choose your title). The fallen one has always been working to draw people away from God. That's his way of gaining his own following.
I can tell you that there is one thing that all Christian faiths do agree on. And, trust me, it is the most important:
Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the light. No man enters into the kingdom of Heaven except by Me".
{That was my reply TO the opening post}
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This is my reply to the fact that this thread excists:
This community forum has guidelines that prohibit member-bashing and racial and other derogatory jokes, pictures, and comments.
Only because it's directed toward Christians is it tolerated. Because, AS Christians, we are taught to be tolerant.
Had this been a thread entitled "Ignorant Jews, Don't They Know Jesus IS the Messiah?", or perhaps (and this is only for illustrative purposes) "Why do Faggots do the Things They Do?", it would've been locked within the hour.
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But, DO...please continue. You only further prove my point.......
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