Ban the Burqa

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Flynn

Here the driver is responsible, each penalty for a traffic infringement has a financial penalty and points off your licence.

Three or four speeding fines and your licence is cancelled.

Here, the more tickets you get, the higher your insurance premium is..

[smuttydad]

If that is the only sanction then the more money you have the more you can speed. If there is a point based sanction then at least the rich will lose their license like the poor. Mind you they can afford better lawyers.

[smuttydad]

Originally Posted by Flynn

Muslim women who immigrated to our countries should be able to wear the Burqa to any place of worship, wear it a social gatherings but day to day use in the real world should be discouraged and there should be a ban on our tax payer funded public servants wearing the Burqa to a government job.

Unless of course it is a requirement of the position they hold to wear the garment.

I don't see how how the Burqa fits in a modern Western society that was developed by our invading forefathers.

Are we under attack like the Natives of our lands were all those years ago ?

Why ban it on a government job? What is the problem if the job does not require face to face contact? Surely the limit should be whether it is appropriate to the job in question.

[Flynn]

Welcome back STYD

I agree with you about the traffic infringement. In Australia traffic infringements, especially if they go unpaid, will mean loss of licence. The rich can still get a good lawyer but the system basically works. Some traffic offenders end up in our prisons with other repeat offending, drunk/dangerous drivers who just don't learn from their mistakes.

On the other point of why should the burqa and other similar garments be banned in government buildings.

Security is top of my list.

Banks here have signs up that motor cycle helmets must be removed before entering the bank or you will trigger an alarm. The same should apply to the burqa.

Most government buildings here have security guards who like to check that the person with the personnel identity swipe card who is about to enter a secure area is not an imposter.

A burqa is a good disguise that could be used for a host of reasons.

but

As you say, if it is a requirement of the job then it should be worn.

I'd hate to think a Muslim man who is a new arrival to my country would have to deal with a woman if she wasn't wearing a burqa.

There could be a good argument put forward that our Christian government employees must wear a burqa to deal with men from the Islamic faith who want to immigrate here.

[Flynn]

This is an example of how extremists can take it to a level that makes it unacceptable.





quote Washingon Times



KHARTOUM, Sudan (Agence France-Presse) | A well-known Sudanese female journalist is facing 40 lashes after being accused of wearing "indecent" clothes, with 10 women already whipped for similar offenses against Islamic law.

Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein, who writes for the left-wing Al-Sahafa newspaper and works for the media department of the United Nations Mission in Sudan, was arrested in Khartoum last week and charged with dressing indecently.

Ms. al-Hussein told AFP she was at a restaurant on July 3 when police came in and ordered women wearing trousers to follow them to the police station.

"They took away me and 12 other young women, including southerners," she said, referring to women from Sudan's animist and Christian south where the Muslim north's Islamic or Shariah law does not apply.

"Two days later, 10 of them were summoned to the police station in downtown Khartoum and given 10 lashes each," said Ms. al-Hussein, who wears a hijab or Islamic headscarf.

The remaining three women, including Ms. al-Hussein, have been charged under Sudanese law with "committing an indecent act or one which violates public morality or wearing indecent clothes."

If convicted, they face a mandatory 40 lashes. Ms. al-Hussein said she did not know when her case would be heard.

"I want people to know what happened," she said.

Unlike some countries in the region, particularly in the Gulf, women have a prominent place in Sudanese public life. Nevertheless, human rights organizations say that some laws discriminate against women.

[smuttydad]

This smacks of political manipulation of religious laws. Is it significant that a left-wing journalist was targeted?
Even if not it is still unacceptable.

[hortysir]

***** "They took away me and 12 other young women, including southerners," she said *****
OMG!!!!
Now they're targeting Southerners??!!!

[Flynn]

STYD

It was more a case of religious manipulation of the political laws.

[hortysir]

I saw they were discussing this on Fox news yesterday. I didn't get a chance to turn it up as I was at work and it was the middle of lunch, so I can't say what views they were expressing one way or another

[hortysir]

Just saw an article about the Netherlands wanting to jail women wearing the Burqa in public.

??

It's seen as a symbol of oppression, so let's jail oppressed women????