Ban the Burqa

[squirt]

Originally Posted by LilMissPurrfect

Finally I have the time to reply to this thread. Any idea how frustrating it was to read this thread, wanting to reply to it so badly and not have the time to reply to it?

I am against the burqa For several reasons:

For safety. (i once tried one on just to see how it feels. well it's heavy, it's extremly warm, when you breath you have the feeling like you are having a scarf around your mouth.,...and you can't see things very well because of the net)....the same counts for the Niqab. (which is almost the same as the burqa except the net before the eyes)

But the main reason FOR me....is because to my opinion it's female oppression and has nothing to do with religion but rather with culture.
As in most muslim countries women do not wear burqa's or niqabs.
And why does a woman have to cover herself up to be "safe" against men? For not to be seen as a sex object?
And here I was thinking men were the "Stronger" Sex. Men should learn to control themself. The problem is with them. Not with the women. But I guess that counts for every religion.

I can't speak for other muslima's because I guess everybody has their own reason to wear what they wear. But I prefer to see someone's eyes and face when I talk to them. The Koran says that we have to wear decent and we have to cover up modest. But where is the line of decent and modesty? A nice sweater and skirt/pants can be decent as well. And if you want to wear a veil....please do....I also don't mind the hijab because the hijab shows the face and if she wants to wear it then let her.

BUT!
For muslims in Western countries. I think burqa's and niqabs are way too much. One of the things muslims are not supposed to do is to attrack attention to themself. And I think you get lots of attention walking around like this......and I personally have a problem with that. The same as I have a problem with Western women going to Egypt or another Arabic country making camel rides while wearing nothing but a bikini.

I couldn't wait to read your take on this, about time you replied ... lol

[kipper]

Originally Posted by LilMissPurrfect

Finally I have the time to reply to this thread. Any idea how frustrating it was to read this thread, wanting to reply to it so badly and not have the time to reply to it?

I am against the burqa For several reasons:

For safety. (i once tried one on just to see how it feels. well it's heavy, it's extremly warm, when you breath you have the feeling like you are having a scarf around your mouth.,...and you can't see things very well because of the net)....the same counts for the Niqab. (which is almost the same as the burqa except the net before the eyes)

But the main reason FOR me....is because to my opinion it's female oppression and has nothing to do with religion but rather with culture.
As in most muslim countries women do not wear burqa's or niqabs.
And why does a woman have to cover herself up to be "safe" against men? For not to be seen as a sex object?
And here I was thinking men were the "Stronger" Sex. Men should learn to control themself. The problem is with them. Not with the women. But I guess that counts for every religion.

I can't speak for other muslima's because I guess everybody has their own reason to wear what they wear. But I prefer to see someone's eyes and face when I talk to them. The Koran says that we have to wear decent and we have to cover up modest. But where is the line of decent and modesty? A nice sweater and skirt/pants can be decent as well. And if you want to wear a veil....please do....I also don't mind the hijab because the hijab shows the face and if she wants to wear it then let her.

BUT!
For muslims in Western countries. I think burqa's and niqabs are way too much. One of the things muslims are not supposed to do is to attrack attention to themself. And I think you get lots of attention walking around like this......and I personally have a problem with that. The same as I have a problem with Western women going to Egypt or another Arabic country making camel rides while wearing nothing but a bikini.

You looked damned cute in it though lil' miss p...

[LilMissPurrfect]

Originally Posted by kipper

I've seen some Muslim women and the more they cover up the better, preferably a full face crash helmet as well as the Burka...

I AM A MUSLIM WOMAN MISTER KIPPER!!!!!!!
Ah well....it cover ups the cellulitis...

[LilMissPurrfect]

Originally Posted by squirt

I couldn't wait to read your take on this, about time you replied ... lol

yes I know...work just take too much free time!!

[LilMissPurrfect]

Originally Posted by kipper

You looked damned cute in it though lil' miss p...

LOL......I am going to send this picture home.....they will be so proud of me!! :to unge2:

[kipper]

Originally Posted by LilMissPurrfect

LOL......I am going to send this picture home.....they will be so proud of me!! :to unge2:

But will they believe you?...lol

[kipper]

Originally Posted by LilMissPurrfect

I AM A MUSLIM WOMAN MISTER KIPPER!!!!!!!
Ah well....it cover ups the cellulitis...

Don't be offended hun! I insult everyone...

[LilMissPurrfect]

Originally Posted by kipper

But will they believe you?...lol

Guess not......not anymore since they thought i was finally praying and i had to tell them that I lost my contact lens!

[kipper]

Originally Posted by LilMissPurrfect

Guess not......not anymore since they thought i was finally praying and i had to tell them that I lost my contact lens!

My friend had something similar in the navy, they didn't believe him and the first mate were playing naked leapfrog...

[Flynn]

Originally Posted by hortysir

I do understand your concerns about the Burqa concealing a person's identity.
I just feel that they are unwarranted.
It is their right/freedom to do so.
It's been discussed time and time again that person's rights end at someone else's.
I don't see how their wearing this attire intrudes on someone else's rights.
Are you saying that we have a right to see what they look like?

Your stance on this issue amazes me.

I know you believe every American has a constitutional rights but to advocate that a Muslim woman in your country can have a government job, a drivers licence, an identity card, or even a gun licence without having photo identity is an absurd abuse of individual freedoms.