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Old 10-14-2009, 10:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I do not agree with this. The brainwashing if any is indigenous...how can a person born and brought up in the West could be brainwashed by illiterate and ignorant Talibs??
I dont know either...but especially in this recession..no jobs/future/no
idols apart from pop idols..lol..resignation,e.g
...the brainwasher s get /find ...easy targets
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Old 10-14-2009, 11:34 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I dont know either...but especially in this recession..no jobs/future/no
idols apart from pop idols..lol..resignation,e.g
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but the spree started long before this recession...
I don't think any Asian is jobless in the USA or the West....they are either high-level professionals or labor!
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I do not agree with this. The brainwashing if any is indigenous...how can a person born and brought up in the West could be brainwashed by illiterate and ignorant Talibs??
I think I can kinda "understand" (not understand as in I agree) how these people are getting brainwashed.
A lot of muslims in the west are grown up with two different cultures. One of the country they live in and the other from their family.
And like most teenagers they feel misunderstand and not belonging to any group. They want acceptance BUT with their own attitude they are placing themself outside the society.
The people will always see them as "the foreigner" (even if they are born and raised in the country they live)....so some of them are looking for a group to where they can belong to.....and unfortunately some of them get in contact with radical Imams. Who teach (brainwash) them to hate.
And unfortunately a few of them go to places like Pakistan, Aghanistan, Iran where they get "brainwashed" more.

BTW, speaking of Al-Qaeda being phantom.
And I am serious here. lol. I mean with the Taliban atleast there is a school where they teach little boys to be a talib but with alqueda how do you join? Where can you sign up? How do you get in contact with them?
Is it like Osama is sitting in some kind of Batcave and you can write him a application letter?


And I read in the newspaper this morning that the United States says that Al-Qaeda is in its worst financial state for many years.
HOW DO THEY KNOW?
With what bank does Osama have an account?
No seriously!
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The problem with banking for terrorists is the bank will not lknow that you are a terrorist. Al Qaeda don't open an account in their name but if a chap comes in to bank with you with 20-30 million dolars to open the account then you're probobly going to be predisposed to trust him. After all he's giving you the money not the other way around.
Besides AQ is a loose congoloration of terrorist groups. Most do not think of themselves as terrorists and some will not agree with others but AQ seem to bew more of an enabling organisation. Need some help with bomb-making...we know the guy! Need false documents...we can put you in touch with him.
In an uinderground world most will klnow each other or how they can be contacted.
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That part i understand BUT how does the US know the finance state of AQ?
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They will be tracking the finances of people they knmow are AQ operatives but cannot prove in a court of law. This will give them a good idea of what is happening.
Now you may ask why they don't just "take these people out" but that's harder than you may think. Apart from the constitutional questions over sanctioned assassinations, there is the fact that if you know who someone is then you can more easily follow their money and gain intelligence.
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Ok, yes that makes sense. I was already wondering
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I think I can kinda "understand" (not understand as in I agree) how these people are getting brainwashed.
A lot of muslims in the west are grown up with two different cultures. One of the country they live in and the other from their family.
And like most teenagers they feel misunderstand and not belonging to any group. They want acceptance BUT with their own attitude they are placing themself outside the society.
The people will always see them as "the foreigner" (even if they are born and raised in the country they live)...
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probably this could be one of the reasons, I agree





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a few of them go to places like Pakistan, Aghanistan, Iran where they get "brainwashed" more.

maybe partially true,,,,but they needn't go any where else as they have Mullahs to teach them everywhere

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BTW, speaking of Al-Qaeda being phantom.

And I am serious here. lol.
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I mean with the Taliban atleast there is a school where they teach little boys to be a talib but with alqueda  how do you join?
Not necessarily...the schools or Madressahs as they are called exist since centuries...where religious subject is taught. They are not all linked up with Al Quaida but I think they do have their sympathies with them


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Where can you sign up? How do you get in contact with them?
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don't know...that's why I said Quaida sounds like a phantom!!

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And I read in the newspaper this morning that the United States says that Al-Qaeda is in its worst financial state for many years.
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HOW DO THEY KNOW?
With what bank does Osama have an account?
No seriously!


Never met any Talib or Al Quaida canvasser...but one thing is clear: Islam being a religion of universal brotherhood all Muslims have sympathies towards each other...Saudia is safe because it is sacred and holy to ALL 2 Billion Muslims!
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