Climate change

Tsalagi

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5.1 inches of rain today! Damn that climate change!
 

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Here it comes again! Another long train of rain stretching from the Mexican border all the way up to New York State.
 

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Yep, Squirt is right.
Ice ages, back to normal, more changes..... Glow-bull warming, they said. Here in western Canada, we're having the longest winter I can remember in the last 41 years I've lived here. It started in September and it's still going on.


Blame it on carbon emissions, the hungry governments say. Let's tax you to death they also say. Also believe every rock star who bitches about oil refineries in Canada but still fly all over to collect big fees for their protests.

Yet, all it takes is a farting volcano to disrupt an hemisphere. Mother Nature has mood swings. Live with it.
 

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There is a difference between weather and climate.
It’s winter here in Australia, 200 of our specialist fire fighters are in California assisting local crews fight fire storms.
This week, it’s winter here remember, a water bombing helicopter pilot was killed when his aircraft crashed at a bush fire at a beach resort 1.5 hour drive from here.
Right now, Australia is experiencing a severe drought, bottom of the mountain drought and bush fire, top of mountain record snow falls but no rain. Our climate is changing, the weather patterns are adjusting to the climate.
 

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Take a wild guess what country is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions the most? Canada? Britain? France? India? Germany? Japan? No, no, no, no, no and no.

The answer to that question is the U.S. of A. Wow! How can that be? This must be a misprint. Fake news. America never ratified the Kyoto Treaty some two decades ago. We never enacted a carbon tax. We don't have a cap-and-trade carbon emission program. That environmental villain Donald Trump pulled America out of the Paris climate accord that was signed by almost the entire rest of the civilized world.

Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That's especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent -- so we had more growth and less pollution -- the best of all worlds. The major reason for the reduced pollution levels is the shale oil and gas revolution that is transitioning the world to cheap and clean natural gas for electric power generation.

Meanwhile, as our emissions fell, the pollution levels rose internationally and by a larger amount than in previous years. So much for the rest of the world going green.

The world's largest emitter of carbon dioxide emissions is China. According to the invaluable Institute for Energy Research, "China produces 28 percent of the world's carbon dioxide emissions. India is the world's third-largest emitter of carbon dioxide and had the second-largest increment (93 million metric tons) of carbon dioxide emissions in 2017, more than twice as much an increase as the U.S. reduction." This means it doesn't really matter how much America reduces its greenhouse gases because China and India cancel out any and all progress we make. Those who think they are helping save the planet by purchasing an electric car or putting a solar panel on their roof are barking up the wrong tree. There is no way to make progress on greenhouse gases without China and India on board -- which they clearly are not.

This latest data also proves that despite all of the criticism across the globe and in the American media, Trump was right to pull the U.S. out of the flawed Paris climate accord. Nearly every nation that signed on to Paris and has admonished America for not doing so, has already violated the agreement. According to Climate Action Network Europe, "All EU countries are failing to increase their climate action in line with the Paris Agreement goal." All but five countries have even reached 50 percent of their current targets.

So there you have it. The countries in the Paris climate accord have broken almost every promise they've made and the nation (the U.S.) that hasn't signed the treaty is doing more than any other nation to reduce global warming. Yet, we are being lectured by the sanctimonious Europeans and Asians for not doing our fair share to save the planet. It's another case study in how the left cares far more about good intentions than actual results. What matters is that you say that you will wash the dishes, not that you actually do it.
 

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There is a difference between weather and climate.
It’s winter here in Australia, 200 of our specialist fire fighters are in California assisting local crews fight fire storms.
This week, it’s winter here remember, a water bombing helicopter pilot was killed when his aircraft crashed at a bush fire at a beach resort 1.5 hour drive from here.
Right now, Australia is experiencing a severe drought, bottom of the mountain drought and bush fire, top of mountain record snow falls but no rain. Our climate is changing, the weather patterns are adjusting to the climate.
I thank Australia for helping with the California fires I am in Washington and now wearing a mask when I go outside
I couldn't imagine what they are dealing with but its bad outside right now.. ash was falling last night again I thank
your firefighters for the extra help.. Bless them ♥

Weather

 

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Take a wild guess what country is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions the most? Canada? Britain? France? India? Germany? Japan? No, no, no, no, no and no.

The answer to that question is the U.S. of A. Wow! How can that be? This must be a misprint. Fake news. America never ratified the Kyoto Treaty some two decades ago. We never enacted a carbon tax. We don't have a cap-and-trade carbon emission program. That environmental villain Donald Trump pulled America out of the Paris climate accord that was signed by almost the entire rest of the civilized world.

Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That's especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent -- so we had more growth and less pollution -- the best of all worlds. The major reason for the reduced pollution levels is the shale oil and gas revolution that is transitioning the world to cheap and clean natural gas for electric power generation.

Meanwhile, as our emissions fell, the pollution levels rose internationally and by a larger amount than in previous years. So much for the rest of the world going green.

The world's largest emitter of carbon dioxide emissions is China. According to the invaluable Institute for Energy Research, "China produces 28 percent of the world's carbon dioxide emissions. India is the world's third-largest emitter of carbon dioxide and had the second-largest increment (93 million metric tons) of carbon dioxide emissions in 2017, more than twice as much an increase as the U.S. reduction." This means it doesn't really matter how much America reduces its greenhouse gases because China and India cancel out any and all progress we make. Those who think they are helping save the planet by purchasing an electric car or putting a solar panel on their roof are barking up the wrong tree. There is no way to make progress on greenhouse gases without China and India on board -- which they clearly are not.

This latest data also proves that despite all of the criticism across the globe and in the American media, Trump was right to pull the U.S. out of the flawed Paris climate accord. Nearly every nation that signed on to Paris and has admonished America for not doing so, has already violated the agreement. According to Climate Action Network Europe, "All EU countries are failing to increase their climate action in line with the Paris Agreement goal." All but five countries have even reached 50 percent of their current targets.

So there you have it. The countries in the Paris climate accord have broken almost every promise they've made and the nation (the U.S.) that hasn't signed the treaty is doing more than any other nation to reduce global warming. Yet, we are being lectured by the sanctimonious Europeans and Asians for not doing our fair share to save the planet. It's another case study in how the left cares far more about good intentions than actual results. What matters is that you say that you will wash the dishes, not that you actually do it.
funny isnt?..all those imposing carbon emissions reduction are the largest violators..you should really look up what the Paris Climate Accord is truly about...it is BS and Trump was right to pull the US out of it..it is only about making those countries and the huge corporations still in it more money and is doing nothing to reduce emissions while the people are taxed up to their asses
OUR NEWLY ELECTED PREMIER OF ONTARIO IS AT WAR WITH TRUDORK OVER THIS BS POLICY
he sees it for what it truly is and is fighting for the people of Ontario...2019 cant get here fast enough and we can throw that libtard trudumb out of office
 

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So many people want to focus on the Paris climate accord or emissions from cars or factories or carbon emissions from bush fires or volcanoes. If you looked outside your own borders and took into consideration that the earth is not flat, it’s a globe. What comes around goes around.
Our planet has 2 poles and an equator, depending on the environmental circumstances the ocean currents react to the conditions. We are experiencing extreme weather conditions everywhere. The climate is changing and the weather patterns are changing with it.

DOES IT MATTER WHY OR HOW IT IS HAPPENING ?

The changes will be extreme, there is nothing mediocre about Mother Nature when she shows her might.
The changes to life as we know it will be extreme too, 60% of the jobs that humans now do will be gone by 2050 and that has nothing to do with climate except that it is a changing world and if you don’t change with it you’ll get left behind.
I’m certainly not one of those survivalist type guys who thinks I can out live the holcaust. Jesus, Muhammad or Buddha haven’t come back to show us the path to Nirvana.
I just listen to their records ( Nirvana ) and don’t worry too much about the future that I wont be a part of.
Cheers and good luck with the future, we’re all going to need luck because nothing else seems to e working.
 

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Take a wild guess what country is reducing its greenhouse gas emissions the most? Canada? Britain? France? India? Germany? Japan? No, no, no, no, no and no.

The answer to that question is the U.S. of A. Wow! How can that be? This must be a misprint. Fake news. America never ratified the Kyoto Treaty some two decades ago. We never enacted a carbon tax. We don't have a cap-and-trade carbon emission program. That environmental villain Donald Trump pulled America out of the Paris climate accord that was signed by almost the entire rest of the civilized world.

Yet the latest world climate report from the BP Statistical Review of World Energy finds that in 2017, America reduced its carbon emissions by 0.5 percent, the most of all major countries. That's especially impressive given that our economy grew by nearly 3 percent -- so we had more growth and less pollution -- the best of all worlds. The major reason for the reduced pollution levels is the shale oil and gas revolution that is transitioning the world to cheap and clean natural gas for electric power generation.

Meanwhile, as our emissions fell, the pollution levels rose internationally and by a larger amount than in previous years. So much for the rest of the world going green.

The world's largest emitter of carbon dioxide emissions is China. According to the invaluable Institute for Energy Research, "China produces 28 percent of the world's carbon dioxide emissions. India is the world's third-largest emitter of carbon dioxide and had the second-largest increment (93 million metric tons) of carbon dioxide emissions in 2017, more than twice as much an increase as the U.S. reduction." This means it doesn't really matter how much America reduces its greenhouse gases because China and India cancel out any and all progress we make. Those who think they are helping save the planet by purchasing an electric car or putting a solar panel on their roof are barking up the wrong tree. There is no way to make progress on greenhouse gases without China and India on board -- which they clearly are not.

This latest data also proves that despite all of the criticism across the globe and in the American media, Trump was right to pull the U.S. out of the flawed Paris climate accord. Nearly every nation that signed on to Paris and has admonished America for not doing so, has already violated the agreement. According to Climate Action Network Europe, "All EU countries are failing to increase their climate action in line with the Paris Agreement goal." All but five countries have even reached 50 percent of their current targets.

So there you have it. The countries in the Paris climate accord have broken almost every promise they've made and the nation (the U.S.) that hasn't signed the treaty is doing more than any other nation to reduce global warming. Yet, we are being lectured by the sanctimonious Europeans and Asians for not doing our fair share to save the planet. It's another case study in how the left cares far more about good intentions than actual results. What matters is that you say that you will wash the dishes, not that you actually do it.
An article by journalists Stephen Moore showing that if you are selective enough when it comes to reporting on analytical statistics you can "prove" any point you want.

I have scanned the full review: it's a long and comprehensive report but worth the effort to get the full detail. I'll always be wary of reports produced within an industry (in this case by BP) but even taking into account that there may be some built in bias in favour of the hydrocarbons industry it is interesting and informative. It does point out that following unnaturally good figures for previous years which were due to known factors, 2017 has particularly skewed values by comparison.

The speech delivered by Spencer Dale, Group Chief Economist of BP, gives a fair overview of the Statistical Review if you want to see a more compact version: https://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/e.../bp-stats-review-2018-spencer-dale-speech.pdf