Do we really need Moderators? And if so in what capacity?

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OldMt.Grizzly said:
My question for debate is simple. Since moderators have been assigned there has been a drastic change in the feeling of the Roo. This is a debate question so I will leave my personal feelings and experiences out of this.

However, does the roo really need moderators and if moderators are needed then how should they be established and with what parameters for their "authority"?

I am going to wait to post my opinion for a while to see what everyone else thinks without biasing the results.
yep.I knew you of all people would start something like this......:)
 

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OldMt.Grizzly said:
Afraid of something? I am curious what everyone else thinks. I haven't even voted yet.
nope.not afraid of anything at all.......;) Have nothing to hide since I have done nothing wrong....:) Have a good night Grizz.......:)
 

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Yes the Roo needs Moderators and they way it is set up is just fine in my opinion!
Before the Moderators were chosen and asked to do the fine job that they are doing things were getting out of hand here on the Roo. This is a great place to come and have fun with everyone but certain things were being said and posted that shouldn't have been. Everyone should read the rules and follow them before even posting something to begin with. Some people here it seems have never followed the rules therefore the moderators became necessary, they are doing the job they were chosen for, and I might add chosen by the people who started and run Jokaroo. The moderators were chosen for a specific reason and that is to help keep Jokaroo online and here for us all to use. Something was said a while back that if certain things are said and posted here that Jokaroo could be fined or even taken offline and I'm sure that no one wants that to happen, including me! This is my family and friends that I want to have fun with and if the moderators delete or change my posts for some reason then that's fine with me, as long as I can come back here and have fun!
You asked for my opinion, you got it!
 

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we need moderators

the try to do their job and it is a thankless one

they take a lot of shit from a lot of people

we need them........they are OK.........while I personally don't always agree with some of their decisions....... what they do is fine by me

and people ...................please don't turn this into a pick on moderators thread

they like us are here to enjoy themselves

cj
 

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There were alot of 'MEMBERS' requesting to be choosen.

I agree that the roo has been changed, but because my strong opinions at this time would require those who changed it so that a mod is a necessity, I will refrain.

Griz, green can be an unbecoming color. Just a thot.

Altho I realise regardless of what I say now, an opposite opinion will be there. The mod's are fair, and altho you have a personal intense dislike, doesnt mean everyone else has been given to the same feelings.
Grant you there is a group here that excludes some, and as a mod, all must be accepted. Not an easy task. Especially when there are posts like this. :rolleyes:

I am pretty capable of understanding that I do not have to put up with the inane and constant whining about who mod's and who should not mod.

In fact, Griz, there is only a few who perpetrate the constant worry over who mod's.
Most folks don't make it an issue. Given the rules, yes, members who have been here loyally over the years, and want only the best atmosphere as opposed to someone who has no concern for fellow members, is an ideal choice.

I would prefer to PM someone about a post I feel they erroneously posted that could be porn. I do warn folks....but my judgement is based solely on roo's opinion.

Lara is always helping ppl with their gifs, sigs, and along with me spends a lot of time with newbie's explaining in detail how to manuever this place.

Would a "paid for mod" work the same way? The answer is a definite NO. Pm's are done with care, and personable assistance. Modding requires alot of things Griz, and being a member of long standing, I do it with care....and because I am supposed to be trusted, I make the job as favorable as I can, and yet still deal with posts like these.

:sarcasm::rolleyes:

I best stop now, because I could go on..and NO I am not afraid of your opinion on this matter. I will just say, we differ.
 

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I personally think that Moderators a a necesary part of this forum . The Roo folks already have their hands full enough with the "business" end of our little home away from home so naturally they need other people in place to kinda watch over things. And who better to do that than people who are already amoung our ranks and already know how we feel about things . They are people who originally came to the roo just like the rest of us to enjoy themselves and have been gratious enough to take a little something away from their own enjoyment and pleasure in order to insure the rest of us don't overstep the permitted boundries and post something (not intentionally of course) that may cause us to lose this forum we all love so much . I have never found them anything but helpful and ready to assist if a problem arises (i.e. like the chuclehead who found it funny to join and imediatly start talk'in smack to some of our friends say'in some very derogatory remarks) . I cannot speak for everyone but I would rather have this power bestowed in some of my fellow roo'ers than to someone who may not spend much time here EXCEPT to moderate and am willing to place my trust in other members of my roo family to handle this task. So my hat goes off to the roo'ers who wear the title moderator and I give ya'll mad props!!
 

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I think the moderators should be someone from the Jokaroo admin. I mean if they have this sight going and making money, they can certainly put someone in that position. Obviously it is an issue here and there is discontent with threads being deleted and whether or not there was a good reason. If you look through the entire adult section, how can you possibly pick and chose what is acceptable and what is not when there are so many different standards that people have here in the roo. I think someone who is not a member of the roo itself but is in the administration should be the ones making the decisions. I have seen some deleted that I thought were okay and others stay that I think should be gone. So who should decide that and how can that not become an issue. I personally don't make any threads and don't want to subject myself to that sort of thing but IMO it should be left to someone within the administration of jokaroo.
It seems as if they set this sight up and then want it to be run on it's own. Yes if it should down, I would not like it as I have made some good friends in here but I will continue to stay in touch with them even if it blows up tomorrow. If Jokaroo is so worried about it shutting down, this is their money maker and their site and they should take some responsibility for it. I mean hell, when was the last time you saw them respond to anything in "Talk to the Team"????? Seems all they care about and post any more is all the new stuff they are doing and new offers they are making. I like it here too but would like to feel that JOKAROO is actually out there paying attention to what the hell is going on in here and that maybe they care just a little, tiny bit about what goes in here and not just about making a site for money because it appears that the way things are going this place is going to blow up one of these days, with or without moderators. They don't even give you the courtesy of acknowleding PMs that are sent to them.
 

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Well I am only a King and come to the Roo to have fun,,, I have not initiated a Thread in a very long time as the last two were deleted and for what reason I do not know,,,,, nor did I question it,,,,,,,I don't know anything about the Roo Moderator thing or how it works,,,,,,,,, I have also gotten to the point that i do not post here too much anymore as I have been gone so long in the past for health reasons and most the ppl I use to know are no longer here!! I remember when we had discussions that were funny,,, threads that were funny,,,,,and some that were here before use to post some very nice poems and etc,,,,,,seems now it is getting to be like walking on egg shells,, ya just don't know what to post or say as you may get kicked off the Roo or your post will be deleted,,,,,,,it is really a shame as there are so many nice ppl in the Roo and that is where I have meet and still maintain a lot of good friends,,,,,,


All I say,,,,,,is,,,,,,if everyone,,,,,,,including the Moderators just look at what the Roo says is appropriate and etc,,,,,then we should all be able to get along and enjoy once more, I am sadly seeing some anomosoty amongst some and I have too many faults of my own to be judging anyone else,,,,,,,I guess I have said a lot of nothing here but at least I finally made a post once again,,,,,lmao,,,,,,look at my signature,, I believe it say's it all,,,,,,,,,,,

thank you all,

Sexy Sex for Brains,,,,,,,King Homie
 

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Hmmmm... Very interesting thread, Grizz... :D...

I personally had my reservations about Mods being roo members.. Makes it too easy for it to be turned into a popularity contest.. I would have prefered that mods be people who are unbiased.. Knowing that the mods in charge are people that have not been offended in anyway to our lifestyles/choices/or any kind of background debate we may have had once upon a time would have made me much more comfortable...

There are mods I have had no issue w/ in regards to thier choices and actions.. And yet others that I have wondered if some of the comments, ect, were made because they could make them, free and clear of question.. I'm not here to point fingers at anyone, or to say one is better than the other! But I do admit that I have found myself watching what I say.. not because I fear breaking any rules (which I wouldn't be, I don't think) but because certain people in power may not appreciate what I have to say.. and have the power to delete or ban me.. :eek:... Maybe I'm talking about things I know nothing about.. ARE the moderators monitored in any way? What were the guidlines for thier "election", so to speak? Mr. Roo seems a dificult entity to get ahold of.. if we had a issue w/ something one moderator did, or felt a decision was unfair, ect... Is there anything we could do about it, or anyone to go to about it? Do we take our problem to another mod? :confused: Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to what the whole deal is regarding mods to begin w/?
 

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Thanks for the comments Sewnutz and Cj! :)

As for some of the options on the voting.... I have a few comments on that. The mods are here only to unforce the rules so to speak.... NOT for their own personal mission. And anytime anyone feels that a mod. has violated any rules or anything.... send Jokaroo a pm (after all anyone can send them pms, not just mods) and tell him and let him decide on the matter. After all they are the ones that chose us to be mods. and don't ya think that they know what we do?!? I am sure that they are keeping an eye on us.... same as we are keeping an eye on the Roo!



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I agree that we need some form of monitoring. For the most part it seems to me that this is a good system we have in place now. However, it does appear to me that there's definate singling out of some people and not just for deletion. Certain people always seem to be targets for jibes (good natured or not) from the moderators who immediately go on the defensive when those people respond back, therefore creating more conflict... And how can you honestly justify deleting a P.O.D.?! C'mon really?

Things were getting out of control before the moderators but now they are out of control in a different way. How about ideas and suggestions? What if the moderators were to rotate the forums they are in charge of? (Maybe they'd like a change too...) What if members were allowed to elect moderators? What if someone could only be moderator for a set time to give other people a chance at it? Something does need to be done...
 

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Patrish said:
Aww, how sweet BigPapa...BTW, glad you are ok in FL...;)

The pleasure was mine Patrish....You guys have a hard job and its one you do out of your love for the roo , The same love that myself and the rest of us share and don't want to see lost!!
 

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There were issues in the old roo and people debated and argued about posts back then just as they do now and it goes on and on and nothing has really changed except it seems like I see more discontent and fighting and such since the mods have been put in place.
 

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There seems to be alot of discussion on the P.O.D. from the adult section that got deleted , in fact there is also a thread about it in the help section and after reading it , it is my understanding that the jokaroo boys don't necisarily look at the pics on the P.O.D.s , they are kinda selected at random so they were not aware that the pic may have been a little too extreme to be on the roo.

If I'm wrong then by all means....someone please corect me!!
 

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WhammaJammaThere were issues in the old roo and people debated and argued about posts back then just as they do now and it goes on and on and nothing has really changed except it seems like I see more discontent and fighting and such since the mods have been put in place.
It does seem that way Whamma, but there are so many new people here now, and when you have so many people together it always happens that some won't get along because of differences of opinion, there is no way to change that its just human nature. Then as I said before you will always find some who don't follow the rules either, that's what the mods are here for and we should keep them in place, I personally think they do a great job.
 

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Well Sewnutz I don't want to fight with anybody in here and jokaroo can do whatever they want. I'm still going to continue to come here and try to have fun as best I can and void any trouble but I have seen discussions about this stuff in chat and it does get personal and so it's difficult for me not to sit here and say that personal opinions and such don't enter into it.
 

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Patrish said:
There were alot of 'MEMBERS' requesting to be choosen.

I agree that the roo has been changed, but because my strong opinions at this time would require those who changed it so that a mod is a necessity, I will refrain.

Griz, green can be an unbecoming color. Just a thot.

Altho I realise regardless of what I say now, an opposite opinion will be there. The mod's are fair, and altho you have a personal intense dislike, doesnt mean everyone else has been given to the same feelings.
Grant you there is a group here that excludes some, and as a mod, all must be accepted. Not an easy task. Especially when there are posts like this. :rolleyes:

I am pretty capable of understanding that I do not have to put up with the inane and constant whining about who mod's and who should not mod.

In fact, Griz, there is only a few who perpetrate the constant worry over who mod's.
Most folks don't make it an issue. Given the rules, yes, members who have been here loyally over the years, and want only the best atmosphere as opposed to someone who has no concern for fellow members, is an ideal choice.

I would prefer to PM someone about a post I feel they erroneously posted that could be porn. I do warn folks....but my judgement is based solely on roo's opinion.

Lara is always helping ppl with their gifs, sigs, and along with me spends a lot of time with newbie's explaining in detail how to manuever this place.

Would a "paid for mod" work the same way? The answer is a definite NO. Pm's are done with care, and personable assistance. Modding requires alot of things Griz, and being a member of long standing, I do it with care....and because I am supposed to be trusted, I make the job as favorable as I can, and yet still deal with posts like these.

:sarcasm::rolleyes:

I best stop now, because I could go on..and NO I am not afraid of your opinion on this matter. I will just say, we differ.
See,.. this is what I was talking about in regards to watching what I say.. I have some issues here.. but am afraid to post 'em, in the fear that "comming up against a mod will get me in some kind of trouble... But I'm going to anyway..

Patrish.. I have a few issues.. In my opinion, Mods should be impartial.. They should not try to deliberately goad, nor hold grudges... My issues were:

Patrish said:
Griz, green can be an unbecoming color. Just a thot.
What is this? It sounds just a bit nasty and attacking to me.. Just a thought.

Patrish said:
Especially when there are posts like this. :rolleyes: I am pretty capable of understanding that I do not have to put up with the inane and constant whining about who mod's and who should not mod.
To ridicule a persons post/thread doesn't seem to be very professional or impartial to me.. As a mod I would prefer to think that the "people in charge" aren't going to let personal dislike into thier decisions...

As to the inane whining comment... Is this an accusation? :confused:

One rule I would love to see implemented (and perhaps it already is.. I'm not sure) would be that no mod can delete a post directed at THEM.. That they would have to pull in 2 other mods to delete it.. That way it never comes down to a "I don't have to put up w/ you, so ha,ha.. You're gone, buddy.." situation.

*NOTE:* I am not making accusations either.. Just personal beliefs.

Patrish said:
Lara is always helping ppl with their gifs, sigs, and along with me spends a lot of time with newbie's explaining in detail how to manuever this place.
And all help given by ALL member of the roo (as I and many of the non-mods) have helped also.. I appreciate, Lara.. all help you have given to me.. as well as others here on the roo. :).. I think it has little to do w/ them being mods though.. Because Lara, and others, were helping w/ gif's, ect, long before there were mods.

Patrish said:
...I make the job as favorable as I can, and yet still deal with posts like these...:sarcasm::rolleyes:
Posts like WHAT? He made a fair thread, a fair question. He pointed no fingers, made no nasty remarks in regards to mods... What is the problem??? Untill you brought it up, I didn't know ya'll had done more than mild disagreements here and there.. Goes deeper?

A perfect example of why I would prefer the mods be non-forum members.