Top 15 signs that you are in a Secret U.S. Prison

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Ahh, choices, I choose to stay alive even at the cost of a pregnant woman who has been brainwashed into believing that what she is doing is for the greater good, I wouldn't have a problem with putting a projectile in her forehead.

Do you have access to the news media ?

Of course you do, you are logged onto this board which means you have the ability to read the same information as I do.

The CIA, which is the information gathering arm of your government has stated that it advised G W Bush that that there were no WMD's in Iraq, the CIA recommended that the USA and its allies DO NOT INVADE IRAQ , they also added that if allied forces did invade Iraq that we would beat their army but we would be invovled in another Vietnam senario.

The CIA also stated that there was absolutely no connection with the 9/11 bombing of the Twin Towers and Saddam Hussain or any arm or branch of the Iraq military.

All good advice that went unheeded.

The war in Iraq was wrong, alas now that the decision to kill innocent civilians has been made we have no choice but to stay there and try to protect those left alive.

What a sad misguided individual you are to believe that every muslim man is a poligamist who feels no love for his wife or children, it is attitudes like yours that fuel the fires of hate.
Bush is doing what his father before him did. Start a war for his own political success. Never have I doubted this. Twin towers bombing was linked to the group in Afganastan. Hussain, sold his information to Iran, who now has intentions of using it. Misuguided, not in the least. Its easy for you to say so, but you've never been there, and have no idea what kind of sick mentality you're dealing with. I have been there, spent a lot of time learning my enemy, and I know them well.
 

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The Iraq civilians were never your enemy.

The hatred Iraq people feel toward the USA and its allies is because we invaded their country.

If the USA was invaded by foreign nationals who over ran your country you would be one of the first to put your life on the line to defend the USA.

If you had to you would strap a bomb to yourself and blow up the enemy to defend what is yours and preserve it for future generations.

Patriotism is not unique to the USA.

As far as you knowing them well I doubt that, I can tell by your posts how bigoted you are toward those that don't believe in the same fundamentals of life as yourself.

We are all products of our enviroments, maybe you should have taken that into account before judging a nation by your own standards.
 

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The Iraq civilians were never your enemy.

The hatred Iraq people feel toward the USA and its allies is because we invaded their country.

If the USA was invaded by foreign nationals who over ran your country you would be one of the first to put your life on the line to defend the USA.

If you had to you would strap a bomb to yourself and blow up the enemy to defend what is yours and preserve it for future generations.

Patriotism is not unique to the USA.

As far as you knowing them well I doubt that, I can tell by your posts how bigoted you are toward those that don't believe in the same fundamentals of life as yourself.

We are all products of our enviroments, maybe you should have taken that into account before judging a nation by your own standards.

Again, I have never condoned the invasion of Iraq. As for a suicide bomb, it would me with the bomb, not my wife and children. Big difference, and I can tell you that the women and children have no choice in what the men do. I know more about the Islamic culture than you do. I have spent a lot of time living among them. I understand their beliefs and ways better than most, because I have been in their place. You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between the commom people and the extremists that rule them. I also see it is easy for you to label those who don't agree with you. Doesn't make you much different than those you accuse. If I were to judge you by your posts, I would say you haven't a clue what your talking about, and I'm pretty sure you don't.
 

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I was't judging you I was just stating the obvious.


You are entitled to hate and denegrate who you want, just don't expect me to condone your narrow minded attitudes.
 

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I would say it is better to be in a Secret US prison than to be dead, but they kill themselves.... So I suppose just shoot them and get it over with.
 

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I was't judging you I was just stating the obvious.


You are entitled to hate and denegrate who you want, just don't expect me to condone your narrow minded attitudes.

Looks like a judgement to me, and others that I've shown this to. You'd be surprised to know that I work with all sorts of cultures and other religious beliefs on a daily basis. Get long quite well with most everyone. You see, the only type of person I don't like is those who promote violence to push their way of life on others, and that includes our current president. Unfortunately, it is the civilians that take the blunt force of it all. And if you haven't noticed, the Islamic extremist target civilians more than they do soldiers. Examples are frequent, like our own twin towers, the london and tokyo subways, open markets in tel a via, hong kong, and bang kok. Not a single soldier was present in any of those places. I guess we'll see just how narrow minded you become when the bomb that goes off is in a shopping mall in your town.
 

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gods angel said:
Looks like a judgement to me, and others that I've shown this to. You'd be surprised to know that I work with all sorts of cultures and other religious beliefs on a daily basis. Get long quite well with most everyone. You see, the only type of person I don't like is those who promote violence to push their way of life on others, and that includes our current president. Unfortunately, it is the civilians that take the blunt force of it all. And if you haven't noticed, the Islamic extremist target civilians more than they do soldiers. Examples are frequent, like our own twin towers, the london and tokyo subways, open markets in tel a via, hong kong, and bang kok. Not a single soldier was present in any of those places. I guess we'll see just how narrow minded you become when the bomb that goes off is in a shopping mall in your town.
Good rebuttal!!! ;)
 

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Top 15 signs that you are in a Secret U.S. Prison​

15. Dick Cheney is always stopping by to take the prisoners quail hunting.

14. Your work detail includes building a cell block for the U.S. Media.

13. They don't serve Pork n' Beans with your bread and water out of respect for your religion.

12. The only thing that's a 'slam dunk' around here—is your head into a toilet.

11. Guards say, “Fundamentally—Christian nations don't do things like this.” After every beating.

10. No ones English on the block is very good. But you all agree, waving right at Miranda is not a good thing.

09. Everyone talks like Samuel L. Jackson, and treats you like you are a motherf****n snake on a motherf****n plane.

08. Interrogators constantly talk as if 9-11 was a bad thing.

07. The guards constantly refer to the guards at GITMO and Abu Ghurab as pussies.

06. Your interrogators are always calling in the locals to help translate the torture manuals left behind.

05. Your prison buys “It's Giuliani time” toilet plungers by the gross.

04. The interrogators always ask do you like gladiator movies. Right before they get all 9-11 on your ass. Literally. With a “It's Giuliani time” toilet plunger. :wow:

03. They constantly refer to your 20 virgins as skanks and hoes.

02. The blood they are throwing on you really is menstrual, and it did not come from a virgin.

And the number 1 sign you are in a secret Secret U.S. Prison is............

01. Ann Coulter is the guest torturer.

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Satire: the use of wit, especially irony, sarcasm, and ridicule, to attack the vices and follies of humankind

I for one do not support the holding of prisoners in secret prisons. Especially with no proper due process. Flynn commented that my post was better off in the joke section. He was wrong for one simply reason. This was satire, meant to stir debate. Sure their may be one or two things in it that would bring a chuckle or two to the face of many.

However if I did my job correctly, what I wrote would stay with you for a while. Which means that on some level you are contemplating what I wrote. My hope being that after the laughter has faded maybe a little anger would be left behind. At least enough to make you say that what we as a nation. Both those who voted for the current administration and those of us who at times think of them as war criminals, allowed to happen. Is fundamentally wrong under any justification.

The Count of Monte Cristo was on TV last night. As I watched the story unfold I wondered how many innocent lives we are destroying with the policy of round them all up and let god sort them out. How many Edmond Dantes are we creating. And when the time comes for their revenge. Dare we question how they chose to prosecute their need to extract a pound or two of flesh. Two wrongs do not make a right. It does something more basic, it gives the sense that the scales have been balanced. Whether they have been or not.

What was done in Afghanistan was proper for many reasons in my opinion. But the carnage we delivered to our servicemen and the Iraqi people is just wrong. Not only that, the immorality of the few who brought us there has spread like a cancer among our nation. So pervasive has it become that people have not been and I believe will never be upset enough at things like. Illegal wire tapping, the branding of good Americans as Nazi sympathizers, the holding of suspects in this country without trials. And even worse, the tacit approval of many of torture of people who may or may not be guilty of a crime, in overseas prisons.

Just think Americans if our country was invaded, and you were captured fighting back against the invaders. Thrown into a prison and called a terrorists because you were just fighting for your country right or wrong. Who would be in the right. It was your home after all they sought to destroy.
 

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Looks like a judgement to me, and others that I've shown this to. You'd be surprised to know that I work with all sorts of cultures and other religious beliefs on a daily basis. Get long quite well with most everyone. You see, the only type of person I don't like is those who promote violence to push their way of life on others, and that includes our current president. Unfortunately, it is the civilians that take the blunt force of it all. And if you haven't noticed, the Islamic extremist target civilians more than they do soldiers. Examples are frequent, like our own twin towers, the london and tokyo subways, open markets in tel a via, hong kong, and bang kok. Not a single soldier was present in any of those places. I guess we'll see just how narrow minded you become when the bomb that goes off is in a shopping mall in your town.

There wasn't a single soldier present or at least on duty when your home grown disgruntled terrorist Timmothy McVeigh killed and injured all those people in the Oaklahoma bombing.

It's not just Isalm that has terrorists.
 

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There wasn't a single soldier present or at least on duty when your home grown disgruntled terrorist Timmothy McVeigh killed and injured all those people in the Oaklahoma bombing.

It's not just Isalm that has terrorists.
Every country has their Timothy McVeigh or Timothy McVeigh wanna be, but how many times do you see hundreds of Timothy Mcveighs rampaging through a city at one time screaming death to Americans? Statistics will tell you a radical Muslim has a much higher chance of committing a political terrorist act on American soil than a disgruntled American. Let's say there were no baggage checks, people could walk right on the plane without being checked, and you had a chance to get on one of two planes, one with all American citizens, and one with all American citizens and three Pakistani Muslims, which one would you board? Be honest.
 

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Flynn said:

There wasn't a single soldier present or at least on duty when your home grown disgruntled terrorist Timmothy McVeigh killed and injured all those people in the Oaklahoma bombing.

It's not just Isalm that has terrorists.

McVeigh was put in prison and is to be executed. I guess the same should be done with those we caught in Afganistan, and Iraq. After all , we should treat all terroist the same.
 

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McVeigh was put in prison and is to be executed. I guess the same should be done with those we caught in Afganistan, and Iraq. After all , we should treat all terroist the same.

McVeigh's death sentence was delayed pending an appeal. One of his appeals was taken to the Supreme Court of the United States, which it denied certiorari on March 8, 1999. He was ultimately executed by lethal injection at 7:00 a.m. on June 11, 2001, at the U.S. Federal Penitentiary in Terre Haute, Indiana. He had dropped all of his existing appeals, while presenting no reason for doing so. He was 33 years old.
 

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Every country has their Timothy McVeigh or Timothy McVeigh wanna be, but how many times do you see hundreds of Timothy Mcveighs rampaging through a city at one time screaming death to Americans? Statistics will tell you a radical Muslim has a much higher chance of committing a political terrorist act on American soil than a disgruntled American. Let's say there were no baggage checks, people could walk right on the plane without being checked, and you had a chance to get on one of two planes, one with all American citizens, and one with all American citizens and three Pakistani Muslims, which one would you board? Be honest.


I use air transport at least once a month more like twice, I would not board a plane that did not have security checks. It's only coincidental but it I always seem to be the person who is randomly selected to have his clothes and hands swabbed for bomb making residue, some people get pissed off about such things, it gives me an added sence of security.

As far as your muslim question goes, for me it would depend on what type of muslim they are, the sterotypical muslim that you paint a picture of I wouldn't walk down the same side of the street as them. The ordinary everyday muslim who is opposed to violence does not present a problem.

How do we tell them apart, the good from the bad muslims, that's like asking how many Timmothy McVeighs are on the plae with me, you can't tell the bad ones of any nationality or religion until it's all too late.

Australia has had our own home grown terrorist Martin Bryant, he has the world record of killing 35 and wounding another 37 by gunfire, nothing to be proud of as an Australian. Unfortuanately records are made to be broken and one day someone will break his record of 35 dead.

Guantanamo Bay prison houses another Australian, David Hicks, he is implicated with Al Qaeda, he supposedly trained with that group in Afghanastan. For five years the USA government has held him captive without a trial. Five years in solitary confinment and he still has not been charged with a crime.

David Hicks is a civilian, not a terribly smart civilian, all the same he is a civilian and he is being held in a military jail by the USA government who refuses to charge him. He should be charged, get a fair trial and if he is guilty throw the judicial book at him, if he is innocent let him go.

Until he gets a fair trial we can not establish if he is innocent or guilty.

The thing that is so blatantly wrong with holding David Hicks without a trial is that people with worse records that David Hicks have been released without trial, those released were USA citizens and UK citizens, strangley enough the UK prisoners that were set free are the radical type muslims that you are so concerned about, David Hicks is just a stupid, stupid man with no real affiliation to any religous group.

It smacks of double standards, Americans tend to condem all those people who don't fit in with the sterio typical model of how you perceive humans should be.
 
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Yeah and lets not forget the Oaklahoma bombing, school children who shoot their class mates, snipers who kill pedestrians for no reason other than it was a feel good thing for them to do, murder death and mayhem from your own people is something that should be decalred war on.

Americans are so good at killing each other you laughingly describe it as " GOING POSTAL ".

There is a lot to declare war about within your own boundaries.
 

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great pod
Yeah and while we're remembering stuff and congratulating posters for POD lets not forget the way some western people especially females depict themselves is considered to be a blasphamous act by muslims.

One of the reasons muslims don't like westernised culture is the Soddom and Gomorrah factor that is ever present in the USA and other western countries who declare that their moral values are the bench mark for all other non christian countries.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you should let your breasts hang out or show your bare arse to the world.
 

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I use air transport at least once a month more like twice, I would not board a plane that did not have security checks. It's only coincidental but it I always seem to be the person who is randomly selected to have his clothes and hands swabbed for bomb making residue, some people get pissed off about such things, it gives me an added sence of security.

As far as your muslim question goes, for me it would depend on what type of muslim they are, the sterotypical muslim that you paint a picture of I wouldn't walk down the same side of the street as them. The ordinary everyday muslim who is opposed to violence does not present a problem.

How do we tell them apart, the good from the bad muslims, that's like asking how many Timmothy McVeighs are on the plae with me, you can't tell the bad ones of any nationality or religion until it's all too late.

Australia has had our own home grown terrorist Martin Bryant, he has the world record of killing 35 and wounding another 37 by gunfire, nothing to be proud of as an Australian. Unfortuanately records are made to be broken and one day someone will break his record of 35 dead.

Guantanamo Bay prison houses another Australian, David Hicks, he is implicated with Al Qaeda, he supposedly trained with that group in Afghanastan. For five years the USA government has held him captive without a trial. Five years in solitary confinment and he still has not been charged with a crime.

David Hicks is a civilian, not a terribly smart civilian, all the same he is a civilian and he is being held in a military jail by the USA government who refuses to charge him. He should be charged, get a fair trial and if he is guilty throw the judicial book at him, if he is innocent let him go.

Until he gets a fair trial we can not establish if he is innocent or guilty.

The thing that is so blatantly wrong with holding David Hicks without a trial is that people with worse records that David Hicks have been released without trial, those released were USA citizens and UK citizens, strangley enough the UK prisoners that were set free are the radical type muslims that you are so concerned about, David Hicks is just a stupid, stupid man with no real affiliation to any religous group.

It smacks of double standards, Americans tend to condem all those people who don't fit in with the sterio typical model of how you perceive humans should be.

I got an email about the supposed random searches that they do at airports. You might want to check, but those of you who make frequent flights have been but on a government list and singled out every time you fly. There is a professor from Dever who has the same problem, and about 150,000 others from my understanding. Just thought you'd like to know.
 

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I got an email about the supposed random searches that they do at airports. You might want to check, but those of you who make frequent flights have been but on a government list and singled out every time you fly. There is a professor from Dever who has the same problem, and about 150,000 others from my understanding. Just thought you'd like to know.
I could very well be on a frequent flier list, I'm pleased that authorities would keep such lists.

Most of my flights are internal to Australia, I know people who work in security at my local airport and I'm reliably informed that security and baggage checks are about as good as anyone can expect. Maybe that's because where I live it is the nations politcal capital and our politicians fly in and out of here on a daily basis.

Last time I landed at New York, 2004, I walked straight through customs at your end, Australian passport holders don't come under much scrutiny, especially if you are a caucasian male/female with a good Irish surname.