Cecil the lion

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I think this is the first time I have ever started a debate here ~ and I'm fully aware that I may well be 'shot' down in flames, so be it.

But this incident of a very wealthy dentist from the States ~ paying thousands of pounds to be able to kill a lion with a bow and arrow, has made me angry, angry because it wasn't shot for food, it wasn't shot after tracking for hours in the bush to find it ~ it was shot as a personal 'trophy'.

This lion had lived for 13 years, had a GPS collar on, because it was being monitored by those studying it's life style ~ it was lured out of the game park ~ and 'at night' under spot lights, this sub-human was given the chance to fire off a bow and arrow to kill it ~ it suffered for 40 hours before they found it, and finally killed it with a rifle.

There are no words I can fine to say just how revolted I am about the whole incident ~ let alone the fact that this 'person' thought he could use a bow and arrow to kill outright [at night] big game.
 

konifur

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I hate all hunting.

Unless it`s for food to survive.

But for sport :nono:
 

LilMissPurrfect

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WHen I heard this news and saw the photo of the man it made me sick and so angry (understatement).
Only when you hunt for food to survive I understand.
If you kill for fun, thrill or any other sick reason....
I put them in the same category as a psychopath.......then in my book you're not right in the head.
 

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I'm with you folks. Don't understand the need to kill for "fun".
 

likeaneagle

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the bastards want shooting!.............. I really mean it! I dont even understand *catch and release* Why fish at all if you dont intend to eat it?:fishing:
 

Geoff_the_Beard

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His defence seems to be "That he had paid for all permits". I very much doubt that permits exist for killing animals in the game parks, that exist for the sole purpose of preserving animals in their natural habitats.
 

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For many years I was married to a "hunter"...but I had to learn how to cook whatever he brought home. The interesting thing is that while he didn't shoot "Bambi", he preferred shooting the non-trophy ones...they were tastier. Although I don't shoot (unless you count my mouth) I CAN understand those with skill wanting to show it off. THAT is why targets were invented.
 

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Cecil had been wearing a GPS collar as part of a longstanding research program. It’s illegal to hunt collared animals, and the collar was illegally removed after the lion was skinned and beheaded.

Later Tuesday, Palmer issued a statement that reads: “I hired several professional guides, and they secured all proper permits. To my knowledge, everything about this trip was legal and properly handled and conducted."

Properly handled and conducted indeed!!!!

And, there is this

According to the Star Tribune, Palmer was once convicted of poaching a bear in Wisconsin.

I don't think much of trophy hunters
 

muchtrouble10

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I'm sure that everything was NOT legal...but even assuming it was, that type of "hunting" is immoral! Why didn't he just go to his local zoo to hunt? It would have amounted to the same thing!
 

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properly handled? really?!
they tied a dead animal to the back of a truck and lured the lion off the preserve!
he couldn't see the collar on the lion? his guides, whom I'm SURE had binoculars, couldn't see the collar?!
those guides are in big trouble, because they're the ones who are supposed to know better, that's why they're guides
but the jury is still out on the dentist, they're saying it depends on what he knew, I'm of the opinion that there is no way he could not know! :sneaky2:
 

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I hope he gets jail time and all that he will be able to read in there is: "The lion's revenge" by Claude Balls.
 

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When I lived in South Dakota, the State Wildlife Commission had a program to thin the bison herd. The old and infirm were brought into a large pen. Trophy "hunters" would pay for the privilege of driving their SUVs into the compound, laying their rifle on the padded hood (bonnet) of the vehicle and shooting the bison at close range.
I have the same disdain for all of the deer hunters who have automatic feeders that pumps corn out all off-season to fatten up the deer, then seed the field with grass, climb up into a heated blind and shoot the deer as the sun comes up. Hunters? No!

Sickos!

T
 

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[QUOTE="Tsalagi, post: 4729619]When I lived in South Dakota, the State Wildlife Commission had a program to thin the bison herd. The old and infirm were brought into a large pen. Trophy "hunters" would pay for the privilege of driving their SUVs into the compound, laying their rifle on the padded hood (bonnet) of the vehicle and shooting the bison at close range.
I have the same disdain for all of the deer hunters who have automatic feeders that pumps corn out all off-season to fatten up the deer, then seed the field with grass, climb up into a heated blind and shoot the deer as the sun comes up. Hunters? No!

Sickos!

T
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I agree, in all respects! I have had to *kill*for my young kids and ex husband, I couldnt stand the *smell* of it cooking..... I could never eat it, but my family thought it was good. I killed for a reason, to feed my family. I hated doing it..................
 

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Thanks guys for all your comments ~ sadly this 'sub-human' species is every where, as the press here have come out with stories about a firm over hear charging up to £29,000 a trip, to do just the same thing ~ killing unarmed, innocent animals, there is a need for specialist culling [to make sure disease etc doesn't spread amongst a herd or group ~ but I just can't see a justified reason for 'pleasure' killing.
 

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My husband hunts deer every fall and he usually ends up with at least one, sometimes two. It fills our freezer with meat for at least half the year. It saves a TON of money on groceries. Even though I don't like venison that much, the dh loves it and grills it at least twice a week. It is much healthier than beef because the fat content is so low which helps the dh out with his high blood preasure. I abhor trophy hunters. Their penises must be the size of my little finger to have to kill animals just to show off.
 

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We all like our "talents" to be recognized...but if you have to cheat, you aren't showing any talent...just that you are a low-life.
 

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And while I am appalled that Cecil was murdered, the media had spent more print inches and TV and Internet time covering this in one day than they have in covering the sale of aborted baby parts! Over 3 million abortions in one year but the life of a lion seems to be worth so much more!

T
 

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[QUOTE="sybarite, post: 4729884]My husband hunts deer every fall and he usually ends up with at least one, sometimes two. It fills our freezer with meat for at least half the year. It saves a TON of money on groceries. Even though I don't like venison that much, the dh loves it and grills it at least twice a week. It is much healthier than beef because the fat content is so low which helps the dh out with his high blood preasure. I abhor trophy hunters. Their penises must be the size of my little finger to have to kill animals just to show off.[/QUOTE]

never mind! (i remember the member-bashing rules!) (to do with penis's)
 

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[QUOTE="tsalagi, post: 4730034]and while i am appalled that cecil was murdered, the media had spent more print inches and tv and internet time covering this in one day than they have in covering the sale of aborted baby parts! Over 3 million abortions in one year but the life of a lion seems to be worth so much more!

T
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that is a different debate!!!!!!!
 
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